Why are they untouchable?
Wed 8:33 am +00:00, 7 Jan 2026 1Anneke Lucas shares one of the most shocking and challenging life stories ever told on Heretics — describing how she was drawn into a hidden world controlled by powerful individuals who she believes showed clear signs of extreme psychological pathology. In this essential conversation, Anneke explains how she was trafficked at a young age, how the network around her operated, and why she believes some elite circles foster environments where empathy collapses and cruelty becomes normalised.
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Anneke describes how she entered this underground world, the psychological dynamics that kept her trapped, and the types of personalities she encountered—people she now recognises as fitting the profiles of narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths. Without sensationalism or graphic detail, Anneke reveals the mechanisms of power, control, and manipulation used by highly influential individuals who appeared untouchable.
Her testimony examines the systems that allow exploitation to remain hidden in plain sight, and how children in particular are left vulnerable when institutions fail to protect them.
Andrew Gold challenges Anneke on the nature of these so-called “elite networks,” asking how they form, how they maintain secrecy, and why the public rarely hears stories like hers. Anneke responds by exploring the psychological conditioning she endured, the hierarchies she witnessed, and the emotional strategies she used to survive. The conversation also looks at healing, recovery, and the long-term effects of trauma — including how survivors rebuild their identity after escaping such environments. This interview does not rely on graphic content. Instead, it focuses on psychology, power, exploitation, trauma recovery, and Anneke’s personal journey. Her insights into the mindset of abusive elites — and the courage it takes to speak out — make this one of the most important and thought-provoking discussions ever featured on the channel.
I’ve listened to Anneke several times although I haven’t yet listened to this interview.
People are untouchable because they have money and power and because they don’t hesitate for a second to eliminate anyone who dares to speak out against them. They are everywhere, in charge of many things such as children’s homes, the police, the judiciary, politics, in fact any service that has power over people.
Glad I’m not part of the club.