‘Follow the science’ – ‘Know The History’ – Listen to the lies.
Tue 4:38 pm +01:00, 14 Nov 2023 11All the right wing thugs are showing
their true colors.
Using arguments that sound a lot
like the arguments used to sell
COVID.
“We’re the experts. What Israel is doing
is necessary.”
In COVID, the mantra was “follow the science.”
And, of course, the science was 100% fraud.
There were plenty of people who knew the
science and we were censored.
Now, the mantra is “you don’t know the
history.”
Really? Here’s the history…
Video:
https://www.brasscheck.com/
Aye. Can anyone tell me if they know whether or not, ordinary Jewish people eg in Britain, feel that they are God’s chosen people, and that God gave them Palestine. I find that in my limited experience, that ordinary people world wide, again in my experience, are ok.
No replies? suggests I’m being stupid. I’m not into religion.
For what it’s worth….
I’m married to a Jew and I know all her immediate family quite well. I’ve never heard anything like that from any of them, other than as a joke. Their ancestors all struggled and raised themselves by hard work and clever thinking, not privilege
My wife’s ancestors are a very diverse lot. Most of the great, and great great, generation were refugees from the East, Russia, Poland, Austria, Germany etc. They were poor immigrants who mainly settled in the East end of London. They are just people like you and I. They are as much victims of the powers that be relentless cultural management as we are. They understand far less than we do Ian
They swallowed all the propaganda like we used to. They have no inkling of the truth behind the 20th century wars, who was really responsible or why they happened. They don’t understand the real history of Zionism at all. Most Westerners don’t. Ordinary Jews were victims of Zionism just like the Palestinians currently are. Many died, probably far more than have died in Palestine to date
To blame Jews en mass is ridiculous and plays straight into the Zionist playbook
From Makow today
https://henrymakow.com/hitler_was_a_godsend_for_israe.html
“The vast majority of German Jews “vehemently rejected Zionism as an enemy from within.” They were Germans. Eighty thousand had fought in the trenches and 12,000 had died. “Nowhere was the opposition of Jews [to Zionism] so widespread, principled, and fierce as in Germany,” a Zionist historian wrote. (168)
Thanks to Hitler, 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Israel between 1933 and 1941. Thanks to a “Transfer Agreement” between Nazis and Zionists, Jewish property valued at $100 million was transferred to Israel in the form of German industrial exports used to build Israel’s infrastructure. The Transfer Agreement brought in tools, raw materials, heavy machinery, appliances, farm equipment as well as labor, and capital to finance expansion. Many of Israel’s major industries, like textiles and the national waterworks, were thus founded. (pp. 373,379.)
This at a time when there were only 200,000 Jews in Palestine, including many anti- Zionist religious Jews. The daily wage of a Jewish worker in Palestine was $1 a day. There were 800,000 Palestinian Arabs.
THANKS TO HITLER
Thanks to Hitler, the kernel of the German Jewish community was lifted up and transferred to Palestine along with their property. “Many of these people were allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories –indeed rough replicas of their very existences.” (379)”
Ron Unz has done a great paper on the Haavara Transfer Agreement in his American Pravda series
Simple facts are now political Ian. I agree with the ordinary people bit and all the divides are imposed on us.
From that article
Note the “Anglo-Palestine Bank”!!
The “British” bankers at the heart of the action as ever. British in name only
Thank you Pete, and Henry. TBH, that was what I thought it would be like, but with no personal knowledge I wanted to hear from people personally connected. It makes complete sense. Today I was at a newly opened shop and was briefly talking to a tall good looking guy with a foreign accent. He was from Afghanistan, but would have been young when he came over here. I asked a few things about over there but he seemed not to know and was friendly enough. Most people don’t know what goes on. Thank you both for your replies.
No probs Ian, but I’m no expert. My experience is very limited
But I saw this today behind a paywall so I won’t link. From a very very smart Russian blogger
“The Israelis weren’t exactly Jews — at least not as I understood them. The Jews I knew had been Russian Jews — doctors, scientists, scholars, engineers, writers and poets, artists, schoolteachers, simple factory workers… These were people who had escaped the shtetls in the Pale right after the October 1917 revolution, took advantage of the free and excellent higher education and moved into the professions in the burgeoning Soviet economy. While the US, and much of the “free world,” were wallowing in the Great Depression, the Soviet economy was growing at between 11% (oil production) and 17% (steel production) a year.
These people were secular, had left the ridiculous rules and strictures, the meaningless rituals and the stifling zealotry of the shtetl (good grief!) far behind, thinking them backward and bizarre, though they were not necessarily atheist or even agnostic. After World War II, during which Stalin (an Orthodox Christian seminary student) reopened the churches that had been closed by Marxist zealots, many of them Jews too recently from the shtetl to have lost their Judaistic zealotry and eagerly followed Karl Marx’s dictum “Religion is the opium of the people”) many of these Russian Jews took to Russian Orthodox Christianity — not via any sort of indoctrination but being drawn in through cultural affinity and spiritual belonging. That was my parents’ experience”
and
“Are Jews a religion? This is a particularly odd feature: the majority of Jews are either atheist, agnostic or just generally disinterested in matters of faith. However, in order to maintain their Jewish identity they must not be of any other religion. Thus, for Jews, religious identification is mostly a matter of rejection, not inclusion: Jews may or may not espouse Judaism, but they must not espouse any other faith. A Jew can marry a gentile, never set foot inside a synagogue, eat “tref” (non-Kosher food), work all day on every single Sabbath, not bother with “bris” (circumcision) or Bar/Bas Mitzvah for his children and be a militant atheist — and still be a Jew, but… he cannot be baptized! Given that the vast majority of Jews have come to inhabit Christian or Moslem lands and that they are by a solid majority atheist or agnostic, their religion can be reduced to a rejection of Jesus (whom Moslems accept as a prophet).”
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“Without delving too deeply into Jewish history, which contains generous helpings of myth, fable and fiction, it is fair to say that Jewish kingdoms, governments and states have been none too stable. The Jews’ most recent attempt at statehood ended very badly almost 2000 years ago: Rome ruled Palestine from 63BC to 66AD (130 years), but the Jews made troublesome, quarrelsome Roman subjects and it all ended badly with their temple in Jerusalem destroyed and the population dispersed.
Various other experiments in Jewish governance have tended to run their course rather quickly. Jews were very prominent in the Bolshevik administration following the Russian Revolution. They caused a great deal of damage with their Marxist zealotry and were then reigned in and partially disposed of by Stalin, together with their zealot-leader Trotsky who succumbed of a blow from an ice pick. And now Jews are remarkably prevalent in the Biden cabinet. How is that going, do you think?
The current Zionist effort in Palestine, running since 1948 until present (76) years can be described as American Rule. The two major Jewish population centers are in Palestine and in the US, more or less evenly divided, and American Jews have successfully used political leverage to extract somewhere in the neighborhood of $40-60 billion a year (estimates vary) of American largess for maintaining their Palestinian outpost.
Their leverage was much enhanced by association with American millenialists — another bunch that can’t tell the difference between the meat and the flies — the imaginary and the material, that is. Reading the Book of Revelation as if it were a how-to book for dummies, these nominally Christian zealots have decided that the way to mechanically trigger Christ’s second coming is to herd all the Jews into Palestine and trigger Armageddon. If you think that this approach is rife with primitive idolatry and fetishism, then you are correct. Yes, Zionists are not the only schizoid political group on the planet and, apparently, schizoid minds think alike. What these American millenialists fail to grasp is that the site of Armageddon isn’t going to be Palestine; it’s going to be the formerly united states of America, and it won’t be any sort of religious event sponsored by Jesus, although Satan is likely to be on hand to supervise as needed. But that’s an entirely separate topic.
In any case, the US financial-military machine is now scraping the bottom of the barrel and will no longer be able to maintain its Mediterranean beachhead in Israel. The mechanism for exporting inflation has failed; the mechanism for generating endless amounts of new debt is failing as we speak; and, as for American militarism, any number of shady entities can now take pot shots at US military bases around the world without suffering any undue consequences, any US ship can be sunk without bothering to get up close and, in general, the US military is growing enfeebled — no match for the Russians or even the Chinese, afraid of starting a conflict with Iran and pretending that North Korea doesn’t even exist (because even thinking about it is far too frightening).
And if Israel’s American masters have grown weak, what about the Israeli military itself? Yes, they can still kill tens of thousands of unarmed civilians in Gaza and the West Bank (many people are calling that genocide) but can they win the peace? I don’t think so! What the Israeli military has done so far is unspeakably bad from every possible angle. In trying to counter the Hamas incursion in the south, next to Gaza, the Israelis managed to kill around 1400 of their own through “friendly fire”. It is difficult to imagine a more dismal performance.
The majority of October 7th Israeli deaths were soldiers. Of the rest, many, if not most, were killed by the IDF itself in crossfire, Hannibal Directive actions (not caring about the lives of hostages), and just plain panic with lots of cases of mistaken identity.
Following their incursion into Gaza, the Israelis have been losing large numbers of their Merkava tanks due to ATGM fire from shoulder-launched rockets provided to Hamas by the Ukrainians. The Israeli government has approximately zero public support. If, as expected, the Gaza escapade ends in shame and the money dries up, the Israelis will do what birds do when the bird feeder runs out of seed: they will fly away.
Thank you Pete, for your enlightening info. A tremendous amount within a couple of comments. I’m grateful. It was a subject where I was lacking and didn’t see a way of finding honest information. Cheers.