David Bellamy: CO₂ Is The World’s Best Friend
Sat 1:43 pm +00:00, 9 Sep 2023 18This is a repeat and keep for posterity post: Prof. David Bellamy’s speech to The Climate Change Conference, Cambridgeshire 19th March 2011.
The Climate Change Conference? It seems these bastards are still at it; perpetuating lies and fear. This is not science, but political ideology:
https://theclimateconference.co.uk/
The likes of Sir David Rottenborough, he of the trust me, I have a soft voice persona, have been scaring us about climate change and global warming for years. I recall being asked to watch Life On Earth for homework during my ‘o’ level science school days. I found it dull, but had no idea then that this ‘English treasure’ was going to spearhead a movement classifying humans as a disease upon the earth. A couple of decades ago one of the biggest stars on UK TV was Prof. David Bellamy. He seemed to be dropped by the BBC, probably largely due to his refusal to tow the carbon cult line. I suspect Desmog is a pro-anthropogenic climate change platform, but provides a useful post on Bellamy:
https://www.desmog.com/david-bellamy/
The Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bellamy
Apparently, among Bellamy’s mentors was Austrian forester Viktor Schauberger.
https://www.flaska.eu/water-structuring/pioneers-of-water-research/viktor-schauberger
https://www.alivewater.com/viktor-schauberger
I wanted a book on Schauberger, searched and found one with a forward by David Bellamy. I bought the book by Alick Bartholomew:
https://archive.org/details/alickbartholomewhiddennature
… but, oh dear. The first alert comes on p.18…
‘You don’t need to subscribe to conspiracy theories to realize that all aspects of our society suffer from a grand delusion that is contributing to the breakdown of our world order and to the collapse of our ecosystems.’
I’ve noted in my book: What? Silly comment.
Then on p.19…
‘… we can’t even agree to implement the kind of cuts in carbon dioxide emissions that are essential to avoid catastrophic climate change.’
I was perplexed. How could Bellamy, completely dismissed by the BBC for ‘denying’ CO₂ climate change, be supplying the forward to this book?
So, to Bellamy’s lecture from 2011 which includes toward the end,
“My case rests, carbon dioxide is not a poison but the world’s best friend.”
…. and that’s probably the major reason why the BBC ceased employing him.
This is a speech as I found it on FakeBook several years ago. I don’t know for sure if it is authentic and would welcome confirmation of it being so. It does seem to sum up thoughts Bellamy might have had on the subject.
Prof. David Bellamy’s Speech To The Climate Change Conference
Cambridgeshire 19th March 2011
Back in the 1980’s when the latest scare about an impending ice age caught the imagination of pop science and the headline driven press I was teaching ecology at Durham University. However safe in the knowledge that there have been many ice ages, little ice ages, interglacials and interstadials some of the latter degrees warmer than today I was in no hurry to make predictions or apply for a post in Australia. We discussed it in a rational way during seminars.
Like the fluctuations of any interstadial, the “end of the world” arguments soon swung the other way and the fear of carbon-induced warming was born on the computer models of the IPCC.
More powerful and faster computers along with the development of the internet, sped the reaction time of both the programmers and the press. So much so that the prediction of models and the predilections of the press for bad news began to usurp the precautionary principles that used to be the cornerstones of peer reviewed science.
About this time I was invited to visit The Hadley Centre for Climate Research and Prediction in Exeter. After a four-hour session and a nice working lunch I was asked if I would help put over their point of view to the general public.
I agreed that I would do my best to digest all the power points I had been given and call them back.
My answer was a polite no and so I got caught up in the ongoing argument and the totally unscientific fracas that was developing around so called global warming heretics.
Spiced with all the venom of celebrity status I soon began to feel the heat of the machine of vilification already focussed on anyone who questioned the catastrophe dogma spun from the computer predictions that flowed from IPCC and centred on carbon as the bad guy.
For a while I retreated behind the fact that what was happening “beggared belief” and given time would die of natural causes.
However the bandwagon of doom, gloom and vilification rolled on turning into a tumbril of their own making.
The first real ray of hope was a statement from Mike Hulme Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research University UEA on BBC news November 4, 2006 key points of which were:
“I have found myself increasingly chastised by climate change campaigners when my public statements and lectures on climate change have not satisfied environmental drama and exaggerated rhetoric.”
“Why is it not just campaigners, but politicians and scientists too who are openly confusing the language of fear, terror and disaster with the physical reality of climate change, actively ignoring the careful hedging which surrounds science’s predictions?”
These singular revelations from this highly qualified horses mouth makes it clear that the politicians, campaigners and loose-cannon scientists engaged in relentless fearmongering over global warming are ignoring science and are out of touch with reality.
So why, one must ask, has the Hadley Centre not cautioned Houghton, May, King, Blair, Cameron, Stern, and Gore by pointing out (using Hulme’s own words) “that their fixation on catastrophe could be in danger of tipping society onto a negative, depressive and reactionary trajectory”.
Fortunately for science Hulme could not or would not be silenced, for some two months later just days before the publication of IPCC 4 he opened up another can of worms by saying on BBC Radio 4 that this massive tome
“… is not going to talk about tipping points; it’s not going to talk about 5m rises in sea level; it’s not going to talk about the next ice age because the Gulf Stream collapses; and it’s going to have none of the economics of the Stern Review.”
Not much left you may say, but the truth is that for every gaggle of peer reviewed papers that have spawned the banner headlines over the years it is possible to find other peer reviewed papers that contradict the scaremongering. When they are brought to the attention of the media, like most copy that brings good news they end up on the cutting room floor.
Where does this put the consensus that the IPCC hides behind every time it is caught promoting hype that argues that carbon dioxide is a weapon of imminent mass destruction.
Now you have it straight as a dye from a team of real experts gathered from all over the world to put the other side of the argument.
Now the truth is out my only real worry is what will happen to those many money making “houses of cards” that are based on the vilification of carbon. The good news is that as they are made of carbon themselves, they can be recycled.
Take heart all those consenting climate modellers there is still a lot of work for your giant computers to get stuck into. Take a few gigabytes out of Newton’s laws of physics and get cracking solving the real problems that face over 6.4 billion human beings as they move into an uncertain energy hungry future
Using your computers you can help orchestrate the processes by which a mixture of science based civil, social and ecological engineering can ameliorate the effects of the worst or seize the opportunities of the best of natural climate change.
That was the conclusion of G8 2005 at the Gleneagles Golf Course, itself a hot spot of local biodiversity if you care to think about it now the heat is off.
Since that a floodgate of all floodgates have done a power of bad for the image of science.
So Is Anthropogenic CO₂ Causing Global Warming?
Carbon Dioxide is one of a cocktail of greenhouse gases that make up the earth’s atmosphere. If there were no greenhouse gasses, temperature on the earth would be approx. 0 degreeF. CO₂ is a trace element in the atmosphere and currently accounts for 385 parts per million (ppm).
The British Meteorological offices own records show that for the last 15 years there has statistically been no global warming (1998 was actually the warmest year in the last century but this is discounted as it was El Nino).
The evidence that man made CO₂ will cause significant rise in the world’s temperature as claimed by the IPCC, (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) appears pitifully weak and relies on the correlation between rising levels of CO₂ and rising temperatures between 1975-1995. During this period, temperature rose by 0.16 degreesC per decade, i.e. just over .34degrees C for the warming period; since that time temperature has plateaued.
Some climate scientists have however built computer models round this warming assuming that it would continue into the future. The best evidence to show that the IPCC’s projections are very unlikely to be fulfilled is by looking back at historical temperature records where we can find two other periods where we had a mean warming rate of .34degreesC in roughly 20-30 year periods.
One was from 1860-80 and the second was from 1910-40.
A further problem with the warmist theories comes with the evidence that the warming effect of CO₂ is strongly logarithmic. The first 20 ppm of CO₂ added, effectively causes a temperature increase of 2 degrees C with rapidly decreasing effect on temperature after that. This logarithmic effect is believed by the majority of scientists.
A Hungarian scientist Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi has published a peer reviewed paper which shows that from both the atmospheric recordings and by theory that the greenhouse effect is saturated and extra CO₂ will not affect the earth’s temperature. He has concluded that the greenhouse effect is now a constant and equals .33 of available heat from the sun and other sources. This work has been backed up by a growing team of the world’s experts.
Who have concluded that there may be some warming from additional CO₂ but that it would be minimal. Indeed their findings indicate that a doubling of atmospheric Co2 would result in a maximum of 1 degree C increase in world temperature.
Whether you believe the greenhouse effect is a constant or that the heating effect of CO₂ is strongly logarithmic, you will conclude that CO₂ is unlikely to have any material affect on our climate.
What Other Evidence Do We Have To Suggest That The Climate Models Are Unlikely To Be Reliable.
1. Since 1995, world temperatures have actually plateaud despite a continued increase in CO₂ emissions.
2. In 2005, NASA launched a satellite known as the Aqua satellite. One of the purposes of this satellite was to test two assumptions which all climate models rely on:
i) That there will be a warming in the troposphere above the equator (This is the signature of the greenhouse effect)
ii) In laymen’s terms, an increase in CO₂ in the troposphere would be accompanied by an increase in water vapour (the most potent greenhouse gas of all).
The Aqua satellite found no warming in the troposphere above the Equator and no increase in water vapour accompanying the increased CO₂.
Acidification Of Our Oceans
During the earth’s history, the PH of the oceans has been remarkably stable at around 8. This includes the period over 450m years ago when the first organisms were leaving the ocean for dry land. The vast majority of all life was in the oceans and the level of CO₂ in the atmosphere during this period was over 4,000 ppm.
i) Why do the oceans stay alkaline?
The world has always had sub sea volcanic activity. Very hot basaltic magma reacts with sea water to produce a strongly alkaline solution (Prof. Ian Plimer)
ii) There are huge quantities of calcium carbonate in the oceans (shells, coral, etc.). These would soon neutralise any acidification. Some rivers of the world have become acid through pollution but the sea away from the river mouth is always alkaline.
iii) Matt Ridley has recently written a number of papers showing the threat from ocean acidification has been greatly exaggerated.
What Other Effects Does An Increase In CO₂ Have On Life
Increase in CO₂ results in faster growth of all green plants. Market gardeners artificially increase the level of CO₂ in their greenhouses to 1,000 ppm as this significantly increases growth.
Fossil Fuels
Fossil fuels are predominantly carbon. This carbon all came from the atmosphere and became locked away in the earth during the carboniferous period. Pre the carboniferous period, there was over 4,000 ppm. This has been down as low as 270 ppm and is now about 385 ppm. These figures would indicate there is still very large deposits of carbon based energy product to be found.
Correlation Between Temperature And CO₂
There is a correlation between temperature and CO₂ but it has been established, beyond doubt, that CO₂ levels follow temperature and the reason for this are well understood. Al Gore’s film, The Inconvenient Truth, misled millions of people.
Future Temperature Of The Planet
Planet Earth will inevitably cool. There is a far greater danger of us entering another Ice Age than the planet getting significantly warmer. It should also be noted that all the periods of greatest prosperity in the world have been in warmer periods.
Are Temperatures Today Higher Than Ever As Per The Famous ‘Hockey Stick’ Graph?
The ‘hockey stick’ graph which was originally published by the IPCC and showed temperatures to be hotter now than ever before has been comprehensively denounced by the scientific community. It was drawn up by a scientist, Michael Mann, who had a number of associates and relied on Dendrochronology of a certain species of pine tree to make this claim.
Dendrochronology is known to be far less accurate than ice core samples and recent studies have shown that tree rings are more affected by cosmic radiation than temperature. Michael Mann and his associates – known as the ‘hockey team’ are discredited.
In recent history, we have had two periods that are significantly warmer than today. One was during the Roman period when there were vineyards in Northumberland and more recently there was a warm medieval period. For the warm medieval period, there is additional proof, over and above ice core samples. In the peat of the southern uplands you can today find the roots of broad leaf trees. Estimates indicate that it would have to be 3 degrees warmer than today for those trees to have grown at the height and latitude of the southern uplands.
If Al Gore and his gang of accolite model makers had based his hockey stick would be still be going down as it still is.
Role Of The Sun
A relatively small group of scientists have always believed that our climate is largely controlled by the sun. An Australian scientist, David Archibald, has researched sun spot activity and compared it with the climate enjoyed by the Earth.
He has found a remarkable correlation going back 300 years. He published a book ‘Solar Cycle 24’ in 2008 which predicted the world would go into a significantly cooler period similar to the Dalton minimum (early 19th century). There is to date nothing to suggest that he may not be right.
So why I must ask bother about carbon and carbon footprints?
Carbon dioxide is not a poison, we drink it in beer and other fizzy drinks it makes our bread rise and without it there would be no photosynthesis which would means very little food for us let alone animals.
Every time you fly in a jumbo jet you learn more about Newtons Law of Cooling. As the plane takes off the outside temperature goes down and as you land the temperature goes up again.
As all the potential heat that reaches this lonely planet comes from the sun only the sun can the temperature of earth not the concentration the greenhouse gasses.
The temperature of the interstellar void is about zero absolute so cold that all chemical reactions come to a standstill and heat is being lost to space all the time.
The time has surely come to take a deep breath, use up the oxygen it contains and then face up to the fact that the main problem facing the world is not the credit crunch, nor the carbon crunch but the biodiversity crunch.
The real catastrophe that is threatening both humankind and the biodiversity of the Earth upon which we all depend is the erosion the structured soil at an ever faster rate. We are in fact we are skinning the living earth alive.
Right at this moment the trees of the Amazon are under attack on a massive scale to grow Soya beans to produce milk and meat for home use and export.
A mere 17,000 years ago much of the Amazon was savhanna supporting Great Sloth’s and Sabre Toothed Tigers which the local people did their best to hunt.
They didn’t know that the last (or was it) glaciation was coming to an end and their hunting grounds were getting much more rain.
Please remember in the past 10,000 years despite swings in temperature all the world’s civilizations have developed. All of them have prospered in the warm times and foundered in cold times.
Thank God (or Richard Dawkins) for natural global warming.
Please note that the concept of man made global warming global warming has been dropped by the warmers. They now talk about climate change, which is something completely natural and is happening all the time.
Thousands of experiments have been carried out around the world demonstrating the fact that many plants grow faster in higher CO₂ concentrations.
What is more if we wanted to double the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere we would have to burn all the known reserves of natural gas, all the known reserves of oil and we would need the clout of Arthur Scargill to dig up one third of the worlds reserves of coal. And then the temperature would go up by around one degree Celsius.
Perhaps it is something we should be doing on purpose because already crops and even forests are growing faster.
Do you remember the days (around 40 years ago) when the Sahel Desert made headlines in all mainstream broadsheets. The reason was that local people were dying in their thousands because of a terrible drought. Other parts of the Sahara were being affected but not so catastrophically.
Later the New Scientist reported that large tracts of desert were being covered with trees and the locals started farming again.
One main reason was that as atmospheric carbon dioxide continued to rise the plants could keep their stomatal, breathing pores closed for longer while still taking in enough carbon dioxide to grow
While shut the pores would lose less water and so plants and even trees could grow again in those areas.
Thousands of experiments have been carried out around the world demonstrating the fact that many plants grow faster in higher CO₂ concentrations.
That is why more and more of the world is being covered with polythene greenhouses which are enriched with carbon dioxide as economic horticulture practice.
Wake up, Carbon is not a poison indeed it is The world’s best friend.
Little wonder there is good news signalling the imminent demise of the dreams of the Global Warmers and the so called Wind Farmers.
This statement was in the The Globe and Mail IN ,Toronto, 26 January 2011)
“Europe Pulling the Plug On Green Energy Subsidies”.
To rub it in, on the next day, the 27th Jan 2011 it was announced that the “EU Carbon Trading Shut Down Indefinitely”.
And in America there are even cries to stop financing the IPCC.
We can now only guess where the carbon traders will put their pension funds now their “green” hedge funds are being grubbed up.
Printed in The Washington Post November 2nd
The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.
Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.
Sorry, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922 — 88 YEARS AGO
My case rests, carbon dioxide is not a poison but the world’s best friend.
Even at 78 years of age when I take a walk or a run my temperature goes up followed by the amount of carbon dioxide I exhale.
The same is true for the vast number of the ice cores that have been studied, up goes the temperature followed by the amount of carbon dioxide— Never the other way round.
Take heart Earth’s climate has remained within the limits tolerated by life, for several billion years.
During this time the planet has experienced unimaginable volcanic events which liberated huge amounts of CO₂, we have collided with extraterrestrial objects which triggered either increase or decrease of temperature and even the energy flow from the sun has altered over such a span of geological time.
And yet here we are! Life remains. The global temperature is well within life’s limits – indeed the present-day is cooler than much of previous geological time.
Prof. David J. Bellamy
OBE, BSc., PhD., Hon; – FLS, DSC. D.Univ., C.Biol., FIBiol., FRIN., FBNA., FRES.
R.I.P David Bellamy
AV2: Prof. David Bellamy OBE – Challenging Orthodoxy
David Bellamy on Global Warming
David Icke (yes, I know, but listen or don’t…) on David Bellamy
That’s it for now. I searched for old Bellamy videos and found the results sorely lacking. Has he been ‘wiped’ from search engines? Toward the end of his life, he was poorly treated by the UK media who once adored him.
The climate change propaganda battle goes on.
Edit 10.09.2023
David Bellamy is interviewed on New Zealand’s 3 News and offers his opinions on the hypothesis of man made CO2 emissions causing dangerous global warming.
Ned Substack:
https://nedpamphilon.substack.com/p/david-bellamy-co-is-the-worlds-best
Previous:
https://tapnewswire.com/2023/09/obomba-oops-xtraordinary-times/
One of my old mates ran an early environmental consultancy in partnership with David in the ’80’s/’90’s. David was the lead and my mate ran the business. They were both real environmentalists. Before the sector was fully captured and turned by the bad guys. They both recognised the global warming scam for what it is very early on, a BS control scam for the rich and powerful. At the time I couldn’t get my head round their attitude. I was deceived like so many others. But we didn’t fall out, just agreed to differ. I came round eventually
Ironically enough my mate disowned me totally during the recent scamdemic! When he was totally deceived and he told me to do one with extreme prejudice when I told him the reality. This hard on the heels of one of my best ever days in the UK hills with him. When he took me to some of the most magical places in the north that are off the beaten track
Hey ho, it is what it is, all part of life’s rich Tapestry 🙂
I hate this climate change shite; wind turbines, solar panels & anything to do with ruinable energy.
For me solar panels & electric cars are akin to being vaxxed.
The day David Rottenborough is buried ‘English treasure’, I’m going to celebrate.
Me too Ned, I hate it with a passion
I almost installed solar panels on my roof in the early days. When they were very heavily subsidised by the State and therefore very lucrative if you made the investment. But I had lingering doubts, I didn’t really know why, just that I smelled a rat somewhere
Eventually I realised that, rather than the damn things being subsidised by the state, they were mainly being subsidised by a “levy” on top of everyone’s energy bills! So that, in effect, meant that I would be subsidised by poor people, who were struggling to pay their way in life. So I didn’t bother, I didn’t really need their dirty subsidy
Rottenborough is a total wrong un in my estimation. His honeyed, soothing, tones lull the masses into a deep mental climate slumber. As he adds his “authoritative” voice to the relentless climate shite propaganda that spews out of every State, and main media, orifice now
I wouldn’t celebrate his death though, never would for anyone. That reminds me of Elvis Costello going far too far with Margaret Thatcher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4-zDem1Sk
Decent dirge tune, even if his voice isn’t exactly honeyed. But a wrong sentiment for me
If there were no pressure, no agenda, drive your silly electric car & buy your silly panels… otherwise poor little black slaves slave for nothing?! The rare earth thing alone is utterly & conveniently ignored.
I wouldn’t care, let the free market be, but it’s not a free market, it’s coercion & propaganda. Electric cars were being produced before combustion engine cars? Whatever, we’re way beyond that now.
Rottenborough thinks there are too many people on the earth. Let him rot in hell. He’s pushed so much false narrative & fear. Elvis Costello’s better at songs than economics & geo-politics. Thatcher? Some good ideas, but she did collaborate with child abusers.
Bottom line. There is NO climate emergency & we must all say NO!
Free market? What’s that? Monopoly capitalism is what we’ve got. Have had for ages
And even if there IS a climate emergency then, why should we worry about it? My old grandma used to say that “there is absolutely no point in worrying about something that you can’t do anything about”
The brass neck of these people. They tell us that it is all our fault for endlessly consuming all the products from THEIR industrial corporations! Their corporations that have made them cash “wealthy” beyond imagination. And they want US to pay to bail them out!
The richest folk that have EVER existed in all of history want US to pay for their sins! It’s risible ,and it’s utterly amazing that so many folk fall for it
Free market capitalism. If only…
https://www.tsowell.com/
Energy policy is not about energy. It’s about control. Solar panels enable people to become independent of the grid. Whereas petrol has to be bought. If you can run your car and house without the need to buy anything from big business, that has to be a plus. Sun, keep on shining.
They want monopoly capitalism and try continuously to achieve it. Yet millions of independent businesses survive and prosper. Environmentalism is Communism, the favored politics of the rich. Private enterprise is anathema to the rich. They don’t want any competition. They want total control. I met Bellamy who was pissed on red wine as he gave a talk. Unforgettable evening from all aspects. Great man who wouldn’t yield to the bullies, and was driven out of the main media for his troubles. He spoke about mangrove bushes cleaning up the coasts so that the coral reefs would survive and not be affected by pollution. The problem for the corals is the removal of the mangroves to make beaches for the tourists, not climate change (obviously). Put back the mangroves which lined all tropical coasts and the ecosystem that makes coral will return, he said through the bottom of his glass.
Added.
Thank you.
Control? Really? Who would have thought…
You are a good conscientious British citizen investing in ‘carbon zero’ solar panels for the sunshine UK state & Boris, his dad, Sunak, Starmer. Monbiottom, Rottenborough, Chris Packham, Stephen Fry, the entire BBC, Queen Charley, the €U, WEF, Agenda 2030 et al will be proud of you being a good, compliant British citizen.
You make the efforts of little African children digging for rare earths worth while.
When oil, coal & gas are banned, you will be safe, secure & independent in your cozy corner of the UK with your solar panels in these glorious year round UK sunshine isles.
Buy a gun too. It may be useful to fend off stray cold & hungry dissidents, since not everyone will be off-grid, comfortable & happy.
As you wish.
I’m lobbying & writing to local councils to keep so called fossil fuels & something resembling civil society. It does feel a fruitless task, but someone has to try.
Be free to buy & invest as you wish. I’d like to be free to do the same for oil & coal.
Theory is always great – especially conspiracy theory – otherwise known as spot the reptile. My business had an electric bill of £6,000 a month two years ago. This went up to £16,000 a month last year when we fixed a rate for the next three years. Our energy advisers say we could be facing £35,000 a month at the end of the fixed period. Commercial consumers are not protected from market prices like members of the public. We also have power cuts now which we never did before. We installed a solar system which on a good day gives us half our power. We are tripling this in the new year. We may if we are lucky survive this form of attack on our jobs and livelihood. Ninety staff and their families depend on the success of our own energy policy.
Good luck.
I suggest you get to your local council face to face as a local businessman & shove your balls in their face & insist they stop being bloody stupid.
There is NO climate emergency. England has access to oil, coal & gas.
If you are happy with your solar panels, well done. You are lucky.
I hate ugly disgusting solar panels in our beautiful East Anglian green fields. Lord Grafton can rot in hell with Rottenborough.
Buy a gun. Solar panels are not going provide energy for the UK.
P.S. If oil, gas & coal are entirely banned & we go ‘carbon zero’, I suspect the demand for jewelry in dystopian cold & hungry UK may disappear anyway. I guess the BRICS & international market beyond the collective West may continue demand.
If the gods of the world decide to cut us off from cheap and plentiful fuels we either go back to the stone age or build infrastructure to replace the fuels we once had. In England wind is not that reliable. We have viable tidal, wave and hydro power from rivers which are blocked by regulators. Huge wind farms at sea are blocking fishing grounds. Hydrogen is blocked by regulation banning the sale of Lithium-6 needed to make hydride – the cheapest and best way for hydrogen storage. If people power with earth magnetism or water motors they are usually killed. Wood burners and coal are great while they are permitted. Right now we all need air-con which can be powered by panels on your roof. Human need is a factor. Mass solar systems to sell to the grid are not the same as people making their own solar on their own property for their own needs. Are they trying to stop the common sense production of energy locally to block food production with fields lost to massive solar farms, and the best fishing grounds blocked by wind farms? That seems likely.
You are supporting carbon zero. You are officially part of the eco-Fascist movement. You have a business to run, you have reason to justify your investment & accountants support you. You do what you feel you must.
Of course there are alternative options to bashing hydro-carbons together, but today is today & we must address the reality. We need to insist to people, our local councils, not ‘gods of the world’. I’m bored of ‘giants’, ‘reptilians’, bloodlines… we have real people in real positions who need to be informed & where necessary real people simply say NO to nonsense.
Bloody wind turbines & solar panels are not a solution in England. Free speech, open dialogue & an exchange of common sense and ideas are a priority.
After this to & fro with a solar panel advocate, I feel depressed. We are buggered. England is over. Bloody flat earthers & obsession with body doubles and clones is pointless. May be the likes of Bob & co at Thetford will have an effect, but thank God for wine, whiskey & vodka.
This is very depressing.
There is a distinct likelihood that all of your local councilors and officers have been sent at taxpayers expense on a climate ideology re-education course to make them true believers.
No rational arguments or thoughts will be entertained or their cult induction programming will break.
I agree.
I’ve been wasting my time.
We’re all buggered.
Money talks…
Solar panels, wind turbines & electric cars will reign supreme, just not in my life.
Still, when Rottenborough breathes his last, I will celebrate the demise of a horrible old snake oil saleman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnousEMr1Qk&t=504s free energy. at around 48 minutes free energy at 200 times magnification of laser energy beam. Only a few thousand dollars to build. Fission and fusion from collided light particles.
This is la-la land. How you sit through such videos I do not know. My country is over.
‘… and this is a giant’s left testicle…’