Is a Great Shaking Coming?



Is a great shaking coming to America? An
amazing convergence of events is going to take place during the last several weeks of September 2015.

Michael Snyder is the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog, The American Dream Blog and The Truth.

Many are suggesting that this could indicate that something really big is about to happen. In fact, some vendors of emergency food are reporting shortages because so many people are stocking up on food and supplies in anticipation of what is coming. And of course the list I am about to share with you is not necessarily exhaustive. There are events that are currently unknown or unanticipated that could also fall during this time frame. But without a doubt, the incredible confluence of events that we already know will happen appears to be unlike anything that we have ever experienced before.

It all starts with the end of the Shemitah year on September 13th. If you are not familiar with the Shemitah year, please see this article. During the last two cycles, we witnessed historic stock market crashes on the very last day of the Shemitah year (Elul 29 on the Biblical calendar). For example, if you go back to September 17th, 2001 (which was Elul 29 on the Biblical calendar), we witnessed the greatest one day stock market crash in all of U.S. history up until that time. The Dow plunged 684 points, and it was a record that held for exactly seven years until the end of the next Shemitah cycle.

On September 29th, 2008 (which was also Elul 29 on the Biblical calendar), the Dow plummeted 777 points, which still today remains the greatest one day stock market crash of all time in the United States.

Now we are in another Shemitah year. It began in the fall of 2014, and it ends on September 13th, 2015.

So will we see a stock market crash in the United States on September 13th, 2015?

No we will not, because that day is a Sunday. So I can guarantee there will not be a stock market crash in the U.S. on that day. But as author Jonathan Cahn has pointed out in his book on the Shemitah, we have witnessed major stock market crashes happen just before the end of the Shemitah year and we have also witnessed major stock market crashes happen within just a few weeks after the end of the Shemitah year. So we are not necessarily looking at one particular date.

And this time around, a whole bunch of critical events just happen to fall in the period of time immediately following the end of the Shemitah year.

The following are 10 things that are going to happen within 15 days of the end of the Shemitah…

September 14th – Rosh Hashanah

September 15th – The Jade Helm military exercises are scheduled to end.

September 15th – The 70th session of the UN General Assembly begins on this date. It has been widely reported that France plans to introduce a resolution which will give formal UN Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state shortly after the new session begins. Up until now, the U.S. has always been the one blocking such a resolution, but Barack Obama has already indicated that things may be different this time around. If alarm bells are going off in your head as you read this, then you probably already understand how significant this event could potentially be.

September 20th to September 26th – The “World Week For Peace in Palestine Israel” sponsored by the World Council of Churches.

September 21st – The UN International Day Of Peace. Could this be the day when the UN Security Council resolution establishing a Palestinian state is actually adopted?

September 23rd – Yom Kippur

September 23rd – Pope Francis arrives at the White House to meet with Barack Obama. Some have suggested that the timing of this event is highly unusual…

Francis is the 266th pope who will be meeting with President Obama on the 266th day of the year, leading one Internet preacher to wonder if “something is being birthed” on that day, since 266 days is the typical human gestation period from conception to birth.

September 24th – The Pope addresses a joint session of the U.S. Congress.

September 25th to September 27th – The United Nations is going to launch a brand new sustainable development agenda called “The 2030 Agenda“. The following is an excerpt from an article that I just wrote about this insidious new plan…

If you didn’t like “Agenda 21″, then you really are not going to like “The 2030 Agenda”. Next month, the United Nations is going to launch “The 2030 Agenda” at a major conference that will be held from September 25th to September 27th in New York City. The Pope is actually traveling to New York to deliver an address which will kick off this conference. Unlike Agenda 21, which primarily focused on the environment, the 2030 Agenda is truly a template for governing the entire planet. In addition to addressing climate change, it also sets ambitious goals for areas such as economics, health, energy, education, agriculture, gender equality and a whole host of other issues. As you will see below, this global initiative is being billed as a “new universal Agenda” for humanity. If you are anything like me, alarm bells are going off in your head right about now.

September 28th – This is the date when the Feast of Tabernacles begins. It is also the date for the last of the four blood moons that fall on Biblical festival dates during 2014 and 2015. This blood moon falls on the very first day of the Feast of Tabernacles, it will be a “supermoon”, and it will be clearly visible from the city of Jerusalem. There are many that dismiss the blood moon phenomenon, but we have seen similar patterns before. For example, a similar pattern of eclipses happened just before and just after the destruction of the Jewish temple by the Romans in 70 AD.

Many have also suggested that the Large Hadron Collider “is scheduled to perform a controversial experiment in September“, but so far I have been unable to find any solid confirmation of this. If someone will send me some solid proof of this, I will be glad to write about it.

Just recently, author Jonathan Cahn released a new video in which he expressed his belief that a “great shaking is coming to America and the world.” He points to the Biblical pattern of desecration preceding judgment, and he is convinced that we recently witnessed a historic act of desecration here in the United States…

Many have asked Cahn whether America is headed for revival or shaking.

He is convinced that revival can come out of shaking.

Personally, I believe that we will not have revival unless there is shaking.

As a nation, we have unapologetically embraced evil, and our culture has been going down the toilet for decades. We are extremely proud, arrogant, greedy and cold-hearted. I do not believe that there is any hope for our nation unless we are shaken to our core.

I am fully convinced that the months ahead are going to dramatically change life in America, but whether it happens right now or not, I am 100 percent convinced that a great shaking is coming to this nation at some point.

So what about you?

What do you believe?

Please feel free to share your thoughts by leaving a comment below…

Michael Snyder is the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog, The American Dream Blog and The Truth. You can follow him on Twitter right here


41 Responses to “Is a Great Shaking Coming?”

  1. Arbroath says:

    Has life been safe for Palestinians?
    This man is talking utter religious dogma rubbish. Religion is the problem. The combination of Church and State equals control of the human “stock” . Truly the worst crap I have ever seen here.

  2. Nike says:

    After all while listening to that video you get the chance of learning about how a double-tongued (“illuminated”) rabbi tries to mislead (ALERT!) Christians – to become so called “Zionist Christians” who are being talked into something called “Judeo-Christian values” – right down the road to Zionism. To go along with Zionists (Talmudic Satanists) who want to rebuild their “Temple of Salomon” and all which that entails; Israel – right or wrong! – surely, that’s no business Christians (true followers of Jesus) should be involved in

    Obviously, that guy thinks he’s very clever. As for me, I would not trust him.

  3. RabbiT says:

    I got 6 mins into this and began hearing the out of date, out of context message about being blessed by supporting Israel. It is a total falsehood by my understanding.

    Jesus cursed Israel (as represented by the fig tree) because they received Him (their Messiah) not. (It is nearly always the way, the blindness and arrogance of authority both governmental and spiritual.)

    “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” Mark 11.14

    In other words Jesus was saying we don’t want to swallow the words of the Jews any more and from there the Gospel message went to the Gentiles (non-Jews) and they got the blessing, they became the chosen ones the Jews, as it were, having, as we might say, totally and utterly pished on their chips in their rejection of Jesus.

    This dude Cahn is a Rabbi and a Pastor. In my book you can’t be both.

    This is typical of the modern day Judaising of Christianity – a latter day plague of Jewish infiltration.

    I am not surprised Arbroath is totally turned off but hang in there because Scripture is important when discerned correctly. It has a significant part to play on both sides and we can see elements of this with their “useful idiots” whom we know as members of Freemasonry and their obsession with Solomon’s Temple and all things Jewish.

    There is a coming judgement by God but it is not coming to the USA but to the UK.

    Yes the USA has been trashed by TPTB and TPTB want to trash the truth of the Gospel and pervert all that is good, that is true and that is why these people like Cahn are out there spouting mixed messages – weakening the truth with delusion.

    It is not dogma, it is deceit being spewed forth from organised religion just as we see deceit spewed forth from organised society – namely government.

    Yes the above is absolutely an example of Jewish “control of the human stock” or the goy but it is not the truth of the gospel.

    As for the bankster created economic collapse of the US, I expected it to occur in 1986 when I foolishly created a bug out SHTF facility for myself (long since abandoned). I have a better understanding now.

    • Nike says:

      “This dude Cahn is a Rabbi and a Pastor. In my book you can’t be both.” (RabbiT*)

      No, he can’t be both, and he isn’t.
      He is a Talmudic Jewish rabbi leading useful idiots (“Christian Zionists”) onto the wrong track. He is no pastor for Christians who want to follow Jesus.
      He doesn’t know Jesus.

      The falsehood this guy is spouting makes me puke. Such a disgusting FRAUD and infiltrator. Talking about “Christians will be persecuted” – telling the blinded “sheeple” that they will be led to the slaughter. He (and his ilk sees to that) is leading them on… into more wars vs Moslem countries on Israel’s behalf. More Zionist wars.More bloodshed and destruction.

      What “God” is he talking about?

      “Judgement by God”?
      The victimizers are deriding the victimized. As usual, the victimizers blame (scapegoat) the victims.
      The American people are badly being victimized (while being used for victimizing others); it’s plague.

      (*Rabbi T? This name is a bit disturbing, too. Would you care to explain?)

      • Nike says:

        “He is convinced that revival can come out of shaking.

        Personally, I believe that we will not have revival unless there is shaking. As a nation, we have unapologetically embraced evil, and our culture has been going down the toilet for decades. We are extremely proud, arrogant, greedy and cold-hearted. I do not believe that there is any hope for our nation unless we are shaken to our core.” (Jennifer)

        (motto of the “Illuminati” on the one dollar bill; the “Illuminated Ones”, the “Chosen Ones” want their “New World Order” to rise from the ashes like Phoenix (“Lucifer Rising”), rising from the allout chaos they have created in the first place; the banksters “doing God’s work”; these insane psychopaths think they are Gods – they are demons from hell. They want to create HELL ON EARTH while softly talking about “revival” (fork tongued snakes)

        Yes – apart from that – a revival is on its way. But I deeply hope (for the Americans, and for all of us) that the snakes (dragons, octopuss/es, “reptiles”, “aliens”) won’t get their way….
        They are no gods, they must fall off their pedestals.Their arrogance and greed, their evilness is a plague.

        There must be healing…
        Jesus is all about healing.

      • Jennifer says:

        That quote was from Michael Snyder, not from me. I only posted his article.
        You make a good point about the ‘Abominatti’ doctrine of Ordo Ab Chao and what Cahn suggests is the revival following the shaking.
        I think we do need to keep an eye on the events Snyder lists though – particularly what Pope Jorge Bergoglio has to say at the UN.

      • Dogman says:

        The Druids were the oldest priesthood from the oldest civilization on earth. Egyptian religion and Judeo-Christianity were plagiarizations and corruptions of Druidic teachings and traditions. The word Druid means “Doorway,” and also “Servent of Truth.”
        — Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 2

        The Irish Druidical rites manifested themselves principally in sun worship. Their chief god was Bel or Baal – the same worshipped by the Phoenicians – the god of the sun
        — Ignatius Donnelly; Atlantis: the Antediluvian World (quoted by Michael Tsarion)

        The Egyptians referred to the Druids as the “People of the Sea”
        — Sirona Knight; Celtic Traditions (quoted by Michael Tsarion)

        The magicians and sorcerers whom Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar summoned to their aid are referred to in the Gaelic Bible as Draoitbo, Druids, the same name as is given to the wise men who are mentioned in the New Testament as travelling from the East to Bethlehem.
        — Dudley Wright; Druidism: The Ancient Faith of Britain (quoted by Michael Tsarion)

        Naturally, it is not commonly known that the various symbols and theological idioms of Judaism and Christianity (and even Brahmanism) are of Druidic origin.
        — Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1

        Isn’t Nike the pagan goddess of Victory?

      • RabbiT says:

        Nike, I think we are on the same page here with Mr Cahn though this is my first encounter with him.

        Some have been saying God will smite the east of the USA for decades but I know God and He does not operate that way.

        I will share something He revealed to a lady whom I call the oracle but she died shortly before I was born. I call her that because He revealed loads of prophesy to her the same as He did me except the two tie together to create a fuller picture.

        In 1957 God said to her “I could send my hosts tonight to destroy, but I am also gentle as a lamb is gentle.”

        God will therefore intervene exactly as He says He will do in scripture and this is the problem because many ears think they are an eye and seek to interpret what only the Holy Spirit can reveal.

        The Christian Zios are so lazy they will not seek after God nor will they fervently examine His word they just want to be spoon fed like babies and the Zio’s are there with their glossy magazines and TV shows to give them the snake oil they want them to swallow and swallow they do.

        Oh how I get attacked when I suggest the Antichrist will come from Israel or that I do not support Israel.

        They have been convinced they should worship Israel and in doing so somehow please Jesus. They need to go read what Jesus said about all things.

        I moved house recently and the warmest welcome came from my former second generation Muslim neighbours. Truly nice folks whom one day I hope to be able to witness to but until that day comes I respectfully love them as friends and neighbours not wishing to push wrong buttons by not acting as the Spirit moves.

        I think you are right about what God they refer to – Lucifer who is Satan though the masons etc. would have us believe they are not one and the same.

        The victimizers always victimise the victims. It is some universal law that has been taught to those in authority in the west and I have spent my entire adult life trying to defend myself from such. This is a subject I’d like to know more about, a recent post on Tap revealing how this was taught by some gov official.

        On judgement, God has promised to come among us to judge in Malachi 3.5. This will be before the bowls of His anger (Rev 16) which comes upon the NWO.

        I am happy to explain the Tag:

        It is not Rabbi T but RabbiT.

        Some of Jesus followers called Him Rabbi. My recollection is that He did not object to the term but He tells us not to call others Rabbi as we have only one teacher (Mat 23.8) so I do not call myself Rabbi but RabbiT which is of course Rabbit but capitalising the first and last – after all God says I AM the first and the last (Rev 1.8, 22.13…)

        This is a deep question because I have sought the heart of God since being a very young child probably of about 5 years old, I remained faithful to that and as scripture assures us “seek and yea shall find” God revealed Himself to me.

        Most truthers will refer to going down the rabbit hole and I have gone into the rabbit hole with God knowing this was to be about a world government, a world religion, a world currency, a world ruler and all hell let loose.

        The internet however has revealed how this will come about. In the Tap blog I saw Henry (an intelligent bloke) pushing these boundaries in a way I had not seen elsewhere so climbed on board to give of my knowledge whilst trying to be respectful to the fact such is a secular blog and we religious folk (as we are labelled) have to respect the fact we need to introduce unbelievers to the Almighty in a manner which is sensitive and respectful to their feelings but at the same time be confident that the true knowledge lies with the creator and the only way to Him is through Christ.

        We are not selling a religion but offering an invitation to meet and interact with the supreme being.

        The word rabbit is likewise interesting because it means a runner in a race there to set a fast pace (1 Cor. 9.24 Heb 12.1) and feeble person, poor performer, for though I may seem to loose I always win, then there is rabbiting as I love to talk…

        T is the final letter in the Hebrew alphabet then this would suggest, for all my failings, final rabbi or final teacher.


        God taught me to stand up for myself against misplaced authority and to be honest I have caused much disturbance or is that these thugs have disturbed me and like a dim image in a mirror it came back on them?

        Thanks for the comment, Nike, I seldom re-read my posts.

  4. Nike says:

    “….particularly what Pope Jorge Bergoglio has to say at the UN.” (Jennifer)

    In fact, he has nothing to say; he should keep his mouth shut (abomination coming out of him); they want to throw us back into the Dark Ages


    Dogman* has never cared to reply in a factual manner; he/she prefers ad nominem defamatory insinuation

    (*”Dogman” – any deper meaning?
    dog = god? Who is your God? the Destroyer who turns everything upside down? To my taste you are way to intent on defaming the Christian belief – why so?)

  5. Dogman says:

    Your responses to comments I’ve posted on here have been rude. Why do you and GNJ have a problem with me posting here?
    You seemed to be demanding an explanation from RabbiT and I thought it was a bit rich from somebody using your name, yet espousing the name of Jesus.

    I’m agnostic. You believe what you want.

  6. VICTORY for the GOOD CAUSE says:

    “I’m agnostic. You believe what you want” (Dogman)

    Being rude but accusing the other.
    That’s what I’d call “a bit rich”.

    I’m Christian – and you are free to believe what you want. But you are not free to defame others. (Nike)

  7. Dogman says:

    How did I defame Nike? Use some logic about his insinuation to RabbiT.
    (*Rabbi T? This name is a bit disturbing, too. Would you care to explain?)

    I’ve got 5 dogs…the man with the dogs, the dog man.

    What does you being Christian have to do with anything?

    The control mechanism seems to have always included religion (pagan or otherwise) and royalty.

    • GNJ says:

      I think you need to learn to consider other people’s feelings more “dog man”. You can say some deeply hurtful things to people. You need to learn to be a lot more self-critical and to apologise when needed. After all, no-one is perfect and we are all human etc etc etc

  8. GNJ says:

    There’s a whole lot of shaking going on.

  9. Dogman says:

    GNJ or Girl Nice Jewish,I don’t need advice from you or anyone else from Team Outlaw, considering some of the abuse that gets posted on Chris Spivey’s blog.
    It’s nothing to do with this site, so stop trying to provoke me. Take a look at how Nike responds to whatever I add to the site. Calling something “bollocks” isn’t polite, so don’t feign indignation as you don’t have the moral high ground.

  10. Dublinmick says:

    You know I am always trying to get people to look over this post. I mirrored it. It is the best I have ever seen on the net concerning the “great shaking.”

  11. Dublinmick says:

    “I’m agnostic. You believe what you want” (Dogman)”

    Dogman, you must be a Hindu …. “definition, the search for truth”. Welcome aboard! 🙂

    As the Rishis said 11,000 years ago, even an atheist can be considered a Hindu for he has already embarked upon his own search for truth!


  12. Nike says:

    Dear RabbiT (17 Aug 2015 1:00 am)

    Respectfully THANK YOU.

  13. Dublinmick says:

    When we refer to biblical sayings such as Malachi, it would be wise to remember exactly who wrote the bible.

    Constantine wrote it, a british born war lord and it was further tampered with by John Dee and Francis Bacon. In fact Constantine studied Veda in India before he called his war council together to write the bible and prop up a faltering Roman empire.

    200 years ago the west believed the earth to be flat. These are the same people who present you with their version of the bible hammered out about 2000 years ago at the council of Nicea. In 321 A.D. Emperor Constantine decided sunday was a day of prayer as it was a day of sun worship among the pagans. He was a suspicious man as he put to death his own son and his wife due to suspicions, he massacred all of his rivals and was then canonized. In the Council of Ephesus, which was held in 431 A.D., monks and bishops screamed: “Whoso speaks of two natures is a Nestorius, and let him be cut asunder”. A bishop was kicked to death by another bishop in course of their arguments, and 137 corpses were left in a church to attest the convincing reasons by which the most ruffian side proved its orthodoxy. Such were the assemblies of saints who formed the pillars of the structure of Churchianity. We can easily imagine the nature of the guiding spirit of those councils, which established the creed of the church. From the beginning of the history of churches, down to the present day, freedom of thought and freedom of speech, that are the most essential characteristics of true religion, have been suppressed; and fanaticism, bigotry, curses, anathema, religious persecution, tortures of inquisition and diabolical crimes have been committed in the name of religion.

    Here is the bottom line, Jesus proudly proclaimed, the law is life, not the dead books and dead words of dead men.

    The law is the life force. How do you get more of it? How do we seek out this invisible energy that forms a child produces lightning in the sky, divides the cells and makes the grass grow.

    Those who found a way were stigmatized as pagans, witches and worse. This energy or the life force is called the Christos, great white spirit by native americans, prana by the hindus.

    It is best approached through natural and healthy diet, clean water and loads of tantric sex.

    Evertything else is just a theory or belief system.

    The prophets became that way by contact with the Christos and tantric sex, that includes, all from Krishna, Jesus, Buddha, Temcumseh, Rasputin, Sitting Bull, and many others.

    The word is not a book, the word is a vibration of the cosmos. Stick a couple of conch shells to your ears and you can hear it. It is has been here forever and will always be here even when there is no more man.

    Choose life!

    Western man has been pumped with so many fairly tales he is like a crack head on a ferris wheel.

    • Nike says:

      “When we refer to biblical sayings such as Malachi, it would be wise to remember exactly who wrote the bible.Constantine wrote it, a british born war lord…”

      That’s some fable.

      I’ve always thought Zionist “foundations” “think tanks” “mainstream media” Hollywood magicians are the best at creating legends and myths
      (telling lies big time)

      Jesus is about spirituality not “churchianity” (as you choose to call your criticism) It’s about love and healing.

      Tantric sex is for the sex cultists.

  14. Dublinmick says:

    No Nike, tantra is not for little boys like you and their and their fairy tale belief system.
    It is for the few left with rational thinking mind and some connection to reality.

    Spirituality in your mind is ? who knows?

    The reality is the universe as Tesla described is an electromagnetic matrix. We live in an electric universe. Male is positive and female is negative. It is has always been this way. It was pointed out by the Rishis 11000 years ago. That is why the vedic pope was killed in the vatican by Constantine. That is why you are confused as you are.

    And by the way Constantine writing the bible is not a fable, it is historical reality for those who can read and absorb information.

    • Nike says:

      Phallocracy – worship of the phallus – Whore of Babylon – Babylonian Talmud –

      The Zionists (Talmudists, Cabbalists) are trying to muddy the clear waters. des
      They have no inkling what Christian spirituality is about (you don’t know either)

      They are haters, liars and destroyers.

      Tesla’s knowledge is being kept from us. They keep hidden what could be used for good, and use it for the worst.

      They are liars, destroyers
      in every way possible.

  15. Dogman says:

    Constantine had a political problem that required a religious solution. He had to come up with a “god” that those who worshipped Julius would accept that would be acceptable to the factions in the Eastern and Orient who worshipped Krishna. All of these gods (Jove, Jupiter, Salenus, Baal, Thor, Gade, Apollo, Juno, Aries, Taurus, Minerva, Rhets, Mithra, Theo, Fragapatti, Atys, Durga, Indra, Neptune, Vulcan, Kriste, Agni, Croesus, Pelides, Huit, Hermes, Thulis, Thammus, Eguptus, Iao, Aph, Saturn, Gitchens, Minos, Maximo, Hecla and Phernes and many more) were narrowed down from literally hundreds down to 53 then after much debate down to only 5 through balloting: Caesar, Krishna, Mithra, Horus and Zeus (Historia Ecclesiastica, Eusebius, c. 325).

    To make a very long and detailed story short, the council could not come to a decision on just one god they all could accept, so Constantine exercised his authority as Emperor and High Priest to consolidate the 3 primary gods that would effectively represent the Greek masses and the Eastern and the Oriental religions of the Roman Empire. Every one of these so called “gods” are nothing more than later incarnations of the Babylonian Religion whose saviour was Tammuz the second member of the Trinity and son of “God”. Then names simply changed at the tower of Babel. So, Constantine chose the following “gods” to unite his empire:

    ·To placate the powerful British factions he chose the great Druid god which was the sun god Hesus (an incarnation of Nimrod/Tammuz),

    ·To placate the faction from Egypt he chose the Assyrian sun god Horus (an incarnation of Nimrod/Tammuz).

    To placate the Eastern/Oriental factions he chose the Eastern Saviour-god, Krishna (Krishna is Sanskrit for Christ) (an incarnation of Nimrod/Tammuz).

    These three main sun god / saviours were then united into one composite deity called Hesus Horus Krishna which later became known in its English derived name as Jesus H. Christ. Satisfying the “Julius”, Esu, Horus, and Krishna faithful who made up the vast majority of his empire, Constantine now had a “god” for his new religion which was not new at all but the rebirth of Babylonian sun worship. A “god” easily acceptable by all throughout his realm … fNicea.htm

  16. Dogman says:

    The Essene Gospel of Peace

    Translated by Purcell Weaver and Edmond Szekely

    This was based on texts from the Vatican library and the Royal Library of the Hapsburg’s and dated to the first century AD, it contains many references to fasting, vegetarianism and angels; all of which were altered or entirely removed from Christian teaching after the first Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. Convened by the Emperor Constantine the Council effectively hammered out what was to become the Holy Roman Law scriptures. In the process a lot of Christianity’s original spiritual essence was edited or removed entirely to serve the more earthly agendas of the emergent Holy Roman Empire.

    From: The Gospel of Peace of Jesus Christ published by CW Daniel Company Ltd

  17. Dublinmick says:

    Dogman, always impressive, able to absorb new information. We must thrown out all we have ever been taught and begin again.

    There is only one life force, one energy, it is all pervasive, we all seek it, for us males it is contained in the female.

    That is why so much effort is expanded in degrading them, kidnapping them and extracting their energies in satanic sacrifices.

  18. Dublinmick says:

    I am personally writing to Haifa and requesting you grade be administered as an F. Is this the best Hasbara can do?
    Time to to take out the training manual and go over it. This is petty weak.

  19. yes no interlude says:

    It never ceases to amaze me how religion can cause so much division amongst ‘the human race’. My views on religion are :- especially being a female I detest everything ‘religious’ as I see religion ‘invented to suppress the masses and woman in particular’. We were all born out of our mothers wombs therefore all equal…. but it is the dumb or brainwashed fools who allow someone to fill them with utter tosh and believe it. I expect a few of you here will ponce on me for saying this but again (up to yet) we all have free speech and should be entitled to our own opinions without all ‘hell’ breaking out!

    • ian says:

      I’m atheist so won’t pounce on anyone, though I try my best not to interfere with anyone else’s religious views, as different people see it as different things, and most will agree to finding pleasure in spiritual things of some flavour regardless of specifics.
      I seem to detect a hint of feminism though, correct me if I’m wrong. Whilst I agree that women in certain aspects of life are or have been suppressed, it would be easy to fall into the trap of thinking that you are not different from men, or that TPTB are not capable of using any feelings of resentment that you might harbour, to gain leverage against you and ultimately against everyone.

  20. yes no interlude says:

    ian, hi …. no not a feminist, I hate labels not men! ha ha ha.
    I generally am quite open on my views though. Now many years ago I had a major trauma in my life and turned to the church (I think because I was vulnerable and didn’t have parents that I could go to) and I can honestly say, hand on heart I have never met so many hypocrites in my life! I was made to feel like I wasn’t accepted as I was a single mum < another label (in their eyes) as I didn't and don't ever discuss my private life to anyone, they just assumed as I took my 2 youngest children along with me.. One elderly person took the time to even suggest I maybe be a loose woman as I wore make up! Jeez I got out of there a s a p and never considered going to church ever again. I so wanted to hit that person but I refrained as I am not a violent person. 🙂

    • ian says:

      Well perhaps I’m suffering from Stockholm syndrome, but I find that the people who comment on here are generally good folks, men and women. Like you, I appeared on this site, with my atheist guns blazing, but soon realised that the folks are pretty tolerant of rants. I mentioned Stockholm syndrome probably wrongly, as, as you’ll know it’s where hostages identify with and side with their captors, and I can hardly blame anyone for capturing me. It’s more an empathy thing. Yes we all have our differences, but the things that connect us are far far more numerous than any differences we might have. Some commenters like to discuss different things and I’ve noticed names cropping up more on certain subjects, than on others. Organised religion seems to attract some questionable people, I know what you’re saying, but please don’t judge folks till you get to know them. A lot of good people like religion too.

  21. yes no interlude says:

    Ian, again hi, oh I don’t judge anyone as then I would be a hypocrite too and also I haven’t come here with ‘guns blazing’. I live a quite life and have friends who, like myself, just go about our everyday lives and don’t get involved in things that we don’t consider important. Its just a waste of time and energy. I go to my local community centre to keep up with recent topics as I don’t watch T V or read the newspapers anymore. I also know some very religious people and tend to avoid getting into debates with them as from past experience I feel its always the best way. Give me a debate on free speech, innocent people getting the wrong justice dealt out to them, then I can talk for England!.

  22. Dogman says:

    yes no interlude, you are up against centuries of Roman church inspired propaganda against the Female Goddess and Female Wisdom (Sophia)and female sexuality. The Templars knew better and the design to many gothic cathedrals includes rose windows (west facing is traditionally sacred to female deities) and gothic arches that are both designed to reflect intimate areas of the female body. Many of the arches depict a rosebud at the top of the arch! People that enter are drawn into the dark and womb-like interior of the church.
    Source is The Templar Revelation by Picknett & Prince

    The dominant world religions treat sexuality as (at best) a distraction from the spiritual path. On the other hand, some spiritual traditions integrate sexuality into their spiritual practice. Some regard sexuality as an integral part of life, a gift to be honored and enjoyed. This section contains classic texts which discuss the sacred nature of sexuality and affirm the postive aspects of sex. Some of these texts (the Tantric) are esoteric and touch on the intersection of the spiritual and the physical. Others (such as the Kama Sutra material) are more rooted in the physical world.

    These texts describe the esoteric teachings of Tantra, a belief system which originated in India, praticed by a small number of Hindus and Buddhists. Tantra has become a synonym in the West for unbridled sexuality; however sexuality per se is only one facet of this elaborate spiritual practice, as a representation of the union of the soul with the Goddess. Rather, this attitude reflects the spiritual vacuum of mainstream Western religions when it comes to sacred sexuality. A deep study of Tantra can take a lifetime, and is not for the undisciplined or the thrill-seeker.

    Tantra does not advocate an epicurian or libertine philosophy. Quite the contrary, the practices which involve behavior which is regarded by conventional Hinduism as ‘sinful’ (such as eating meat, drinking alcohol, and having sexual union), normally requiring expatiatory behavior, are supposed to only be engaged in by spiritually advanced practicioners in the appropriate ritual context. A set of alternative practices are recommended by Tantra for general use (substituting sweets for meat, and praying and chanting for sexual union). (It should also be noted the Hindu concept which we describe here as sin is somewhat different than the Christian version).

    Taken with these caveats, the assertion of Tantra that sexual energy can be harnessed to achieve union with the divine is fairly unique among world religions. The encounter with this school of thought by western occultists had a profound impact on the development of modern Neo-paganism.

    Mahanirvana Tantra
    The Tantra of the Great Liberation: Translated by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) [1913]
    The best known of the Tantric scriptures. It was translated by Sir John Woodruffe (under the pseudonym ‘Arthur Avalon’), one of the few Indologists to gain direct access to this obscure and secretive branch of Hinduism. Framed as a conversation between the god Shiva and goddess Shaki, this text describes the chakra, or subtle energy structure of the human body, ceremonies, yogic practices and mantras for meditation, and a summary of the Hindu laws (dharma) regarding sexual behavior.

    The text of the Mahanirvana Tantra has been suspected to be partially or completely fabricated by Hariharanandanatha to support his reformist views, and apparently dates to the 18th Century A.D. This is not to say that it is invalid, just that it is a comparatively recent text which puts forward an unorthodox branch of Hinduism. This should be kept in mind when reading it.

    Shakti and Shâkta
    by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) [1918]
    A set of essays by Woodroffe on Tanta.

    Hymns to the Goddess
    by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) [1913]
    A collection of Hindu devotional hymns to the Goddess.

    Hymn to Kâlî: Karpûrâdi-Stotra
    by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) [1922]
    A Tantric hymn to the Hindu Goddess Kali.

    Kundalini: The Mother of the Universe
    by Rishi Singh Gherwal [1930]
    Includes an English translation of the Lalita Sahasranama, the ‘Thousand Names of the Goddess,’ from the Brahmanda Purana.


    • My attention span is poor at present, even theough my intent and heart is there.
      I like your comments and dublinmicks kundalini article I found very interesting

      Can you help dogman ….in a nutshell
      ………if a man gets sexually aroused, but eats well, is well nourished, enoys sexual energy exchange with a woman preferably in a loving relationship. But exercises control of the mind to in 99% of cases NOT ejaculate, always using the mind to head the final process off….always reabsorbing the sexual fluid….will this etheric energy get reabsorbed for the good of the mans body and spiritual development and Higher brain Centres?
      I really am hoping that just sexual excitement of the mind between partners and energy exchanges but no ejactulations, is OK
      I hope this isn’t bad.
      Because its quite easy to do I think, great pleasure can be had and not lose the essence. I do not think its healthy or natural though to totally deny and bury sexual desire feelings, for me anyway when not ejaculating they provde tremdous energy and motivation for many other areas of life

  23. yes no interlude says:

    WOW thank-you dogman that’s all very interesting.

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