People dead long before flight took off

Russian Commander: Bodies Dead For Days Before Flight Took Off

Friday, July 18, 2014 17:280
Plane loaded with dead bodies and shot down, confirmed by Washington Times

MH17 all but completely proven to be flight 370

The bodies were dead for days before the flight and smelling of rot according to top military commander at the scene, which would be expected if they were actually from flight 370. They would have been loaded on the plane dead to make sure none could speak about what went on.

From the Washington Times: People dead LONG BEFORE plane took off

“MOSCOW — A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off. The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.”
My comment: This strongly supports MH370 as being the real shoot down plane, with all passengers dead long before and probably being taken off of ice and loaded into the plane for final disposal. If a body is already dead before a crash, crash damage will not show up the same way it will with live bodies. This is probably why so many of the bodies in the wreckage do not show serious burns or blood. A good example of this effect is to take a piece of chicken and throw it in a hot pan for a few seconds. If you remove it from the hot pan within a short time, it will look totally uncooked. Yet if you put your hand on that hot pan for even half a second, it will be badly burned, and show it. Live flesh shows injury easily because of the way living cells respond to injury. If the bodies were dead for days and possibly loaded onto the plane well chilled it would explain a lot about their relatively undamaged appearance in the wreckage.
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25 Responses to “People dead long before flight took off”

  1. Absolutely!!! In the video of the crash, look at the bodies. There are 2 that definitely look ‘wrong’:
    1) The naked body.
    a) How did it come to be naked?
    b) How can it’s arm be *in the air*? Rigor mortis takes about 3 hours to set in.
    2) The body with the perfect arm & hand – also seems to have an arm in the air.

    Who were they? The MH370 passengers? The MH17 pasengers? Will we ever know?

  2. What all the evidence is suggesting is that this is a staged false-flag attack by the American-controlled Ukraine mafia/govt. to be used for at least 2 reasons:
    1) As a pretext for escalation against Russia.
    2) To distract people from the assault on Gaza.
    It was probably a ‘good way’ to dispose of some bodies too. Although if they’re still identifiable, maybe not so.

    The idea that the ANTI-KIEV protesters shot it down with their AK47s is ridiculous.
    “After the passenger airliner was downed, the military reported to the president that terrorists do not have our air defense missile systems Buk and S-300,” (quoted by Itar-Tass).

    If you’re suggesting that the Russians shot it down – then where’s the motive?

    Look at the vid of the bodies – they had rigor mortis. One had his arm held in the air – that’s impossible.

    “2. Can Kiev explain in detail how it uses Buk missile launchers in the conflict zone? And why were these systems deployed there in the first place, seeing as the self-defense forces don’t have any planes?”

  3. Anonymous says:

    I know what’s going on in Gaza, are you suggesting no one else does. Thats not even an argument

  4. Anonymous says:

    Thanks for removing my original post TAP, wouldnt want anybody to get a debate going against the bollocks and bullshit any crackpot can think of. Don’t explain it away by intimating it’s views of people who know cause it ain’t, it’s speculation and that’s it never truth. I know you will delete asap

  5. shirlz007 says:

    There’s going to be a lot of disinformation regarding this (some people are going to run a mile because of the geo-political ramifications etc)

    Bodies where already dead BEFORE the crash?


    Exactly!!! Precisely!!! 100%!!!

    I admit when Im wrong… I said the CIA may have had minimal knowledge/input into this… I TAKE IT BACK!

    Me and some ‘friends’ noticed this on RT coverage… those bodies where already dead before the crash. (Im not going with rigamortis, that can set in in seconds under some circumstances)… it was the clothing, the positioning… I was with someone who’s been to two plane crash sites… and they said, at first glance, ”something doesn’t look right. It’s as if the bodies where already dead before the crash”

    THIS IS A MAJOR FALSE FLAG EVENT!!! (full backing of CIA and Mossad)… RT is as guilty as anyone for hiding the truth (choosing to only report 30-40% of it)

    This has links to missing MH370 and/or the unidentified Boeing that was sat in Tel Aviv.

    I WAS WRONG!!! Tap and commentators have taken this apart! Well done to EVERYONE contributing to this… DAHBOO7 is always interesting!

    Operation Peadogeddon aint going nowhere!

    Police investigating child rape allegation against ex-Labour peer and Commons speaker Viscount

    The one-time teacher, Methodist lay preacher and Cardiff MP with links to the Royal family died in 1997 and is alleged to have abused the foster son of party activists

    MI5 guilty of exploiting innocent British children

    Why did former Tory Minister Chris Patten quit the BBC

    How many VIP child-abuse victims been murdered to silence them?

    Im hearing the BBC is to be privatised in next 2/3 years (possibly Noel Edmonds and others buying it?)

  6. shirlz007 says:

    It’s the same debate I’ve been having since late 2010…

    You can use the Magneto/Professor X analogy (telepathy and ESP is real… it’s completely natural part of my life, grew up thinking there where thousands/millions of us)

    if you want to try and be intellectual… the Malcolm X/Martin Luther King analogy…

    ‘a philosophy based upon dreams and hopes, a philosophy based upon reason and rationality’

    At what point do people decide to take matters further, and target some of the ‘known’ culprits?…

    floor is all yours concerning MH17 (im seeing what everyone else comes up with)

  7. shirlz007 says:

    First… The Agency can fuck off! I will NEVER have a relationship with the agency… EVER!!!

    If it is the same plane (MH370), the bodies where already dead and decomposing, the flight was rerouted, Ukrainian military escorted it, and ensured it was downed… CIA and Mossad where responsible! (there ALL interchangeable… even I forget it at times! MI6/CIA/Mossad… all the same most of the time)

    If Putin is a direct threat to the Western ‘Illuminati’ (I don’t like to use the term personally)… this may been an indirect show of force against him. (on Russian border, questions over how close his flight was to the atrocity, CIA are displaying it’s powers in rerouting flights, spoofing ATC and flight sytems… he is being demonised by the West/Zionist media)
    IM UNDER NO ILLUSION OVER WHAT PURIN IS!!! (ex KGB, probably killed numerous times (bare hands!), runs a gangster Govt)… but he stands up to Rothschild, US (and Israel to an extent). BRICS summit… the dollar. Syria/Iran/Ukraine

    -Boeing need investigating (top boys at MI6 will know whats going on)
    -The Agency lied! It played down it’s involvement, and tried to tell me Ukrainian Govt had gone rogue. Too much emphasis on Israeli Mossad invovlement

    CIA did this! Its linked to MH370 (possibly same fucking plane!), Israel and Mossad are involved (no coincidence over Gaza)…

    I CANNOT BELEIVE THIS HAS HAPPENED!!! (whatever that is)

    Realistically… WE CAN STILL CONTINUE GOING AFTER UK’S ELITE PEADOPHILE AND CHILD SNUFF RINGS! (MI5/MI6/Mossad)… we can continue bringing ‘The Establishment’ to it’s knees…

  8. Anonymous says:

    Jesus Shirlz take a break.

  9. shirlz007 says:

    NEVER! Not until this planet is safe from a bunch of real life Bond villain nutters!!

    Danny Hurleys CIA relationship status…

  10. shirlz007 says:

    I thought Sarah Firth had resigned over MH17 because RT was not giving the full picture… it seems dumb broard can’t except THE TRUTH that Putin is being set-up for this in The Zionist controlled media
    (she’s probably part of the ‘London Brigade’ Danny Boy, London School an all… your always attracted to psychopathic women!)
    (young Danny Boys rather upset at that isn’t he!)

    HAVE YOU SEEN THE FUCKING NEWSPAPERS!!! There is not ONE that does not have ‘Putin’ on it… not being cold, but the families of the victims (IF their real) and the British public need to think with their intelligence and NOT their emotions!

    I had a blazing argument with an old women in the paper shop over this!!! (CHECK THE FACTS YOU SILLY OLD BITCH)… I then preceded to punch a bus sign (Ive broken my hand)… then offered two young lads some advice in life…
    ”ay lads, want some advice in life?”

    Im with Putin on this… the Zionist media is demonising him to an extent that it’s horrific… THE FACTS HAVE YET TO BE DETERMINED!

    I hate you Murdoch! I hate you so very deeply… ALL of the British spreads! SCUM… ABSOLUTE FUCKING SCUM!

  11. shirlz007 says:

    maybe Miss First should apply to the British Bullshitting Corporation!

    The same bloody papers I was glorifying two/three weeks ago over Peadogeddon

    Danny Hurleys multiple relationship status’ update
    MI6 – Single
    CIA – Its complicated
    Putin – in a relationship


    apologies for commenting on such a serious event… Il try better tonight. Try Aangirfan

  12. Anonymous says:

    The MH370 passengers all dead? The MH17 swop? The Boeing 777 a plain that can fly by wire easily remote controlled hyjacked FROM LIFTOFF so no pilot needed.

    SO Anything can happen


  13. Anonymous says:

    Flight MH 17 =Arch Duke Ferdinand?
    Is this their sweet spot moment?
    Da $ is dead=
    9/11=did that
    Iraq= did that/still doing
    Afghanistan =did that
    Libya= did that
    Sudan= did that
    Syria=had a good go
    Iran= 2 Bob’s- Bob hope & No hope
    Ukraine take over =did that, still doing
    Brics meet up = give the big finger to the IMF
    Plane shot down and 15 mins to the second=zio,s do Gaza on foot
    Obama = Minus 18 approvals ratings index… yep – 18 !!!
    All very sad side shows = By way of Deception (protocols )
    All wars are banker’s wars ….Gen Smedly butler
    President Andrew Jackson 1832 =”you are a den of vipers and thieves”
    Private bankers= wars=deception=buy any means necessary..
    Who owns the MSM media!=Who’s truth!? Who’s deception!?
    Whackahmol news= the con is on
    Plain shot down, killing all = Cheap Change to “THEM” on the road to kick of ww3/
    “But let’s not foock about now; this is some heavy shit”=if the world stays blind to their evil–game over…

    Just sayin/spleen venting :

  14. Tapestry says:

    As for deleting comment, I’m all for differences of opinion expressed with reasons, but straight denial with no reasons given is often the tactic of the shill. If you are genuine, and here to be constructive, please make that more obvious next time.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Mailonline 24 March 2014: Malaysian Flight MH370.

    Pilot took Malaysian plane to 43,000ft and caused oxygen to run out
    Plane used on flight has maximum service ceiling of 43,100ft
    Pilots can manually lower the cabin pressure using a cockpit switch
    At 43,000ft or above hypoxia, or lack of oxygen, would quickly set in

    Passengers and crew are feared to have suffocated when oxygen levels ran out as it spent 23 minutes at up to 45,000ft.
    The jet was tracked by military radar flying at between 43,000ft and 45,000ft shortly after the last communication from the cockpit.

    A source, who wished to remain anonymous, told MailOnline: ‘It was tracked flying at this altitude for 23 minutes before descending. Oxygen would have run out in 12 minutes [in a depressurised cabin], rendering the passengers unconscious.’
    The source added that several other experts in the industry had come to the same conclusion.

    At this altitude, where the atmosphere drastically thins it would take mere minutes if not seconds for hypoxia – a lack of oxygen – to set in if the cabin was manually depressurised by one of the pilots.

    However, Goodfellow believes the crew were overcome by smoke and the aircraft flew as a ‘ghost plane’

    MH370 was a planned hijack and remotely controlled by some external means to raise its altitude to 43,000ft plus to induce hypoxia. The oxygen in the oxygen tanks had previously been replaced with some other gas so that when the cabin was repressurised the passengers and crew when reaching for their oxygen masks would receive the lethal dose of gas to induce asphyxiation. Hence the reason for some passengers on Malaysian Flight MH17 having been found with their arms in the air. Malaysian Flight MH370 is then remotely flown under radar back to US Base Diego Garcia airport were the bodies are put on ice. The black box is removed and false information entered

    Missing Malaysian Boeing 777 is under cover and out of sight until required. Meanwhile the powers that be arrange for the plane to be transferred to Amsterdam as flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur but there’s a hitch here in that another Boeing 777 is scheduled for that flight and is reported as being cancelled while MH370 with deceased passengers remotely takes off for Kuala Lumpur and is programmed to fly into the Ukrainian hot spot were for months airlines have been avoiding the area.

    Boeing 777 MH370/MH17 is met with two Ukrainian fighter jets only to be sure it’s the right plane and is shot down by them or to give Ukrainian army the go ahead to shoot it down.

    Don’t be fooled! The ground explosion so widely seen on MSM could be anything.

    East Ukrainian forces have got to get some of those bodies to Russia for scientific analysis to determine how they died.

    This is how I have interpreted the situation and I know you will think it crazy but lets face it, it’s as plausible a hypotheses as what’s coming out of MSM.


  16. Jennifer says:

    One thing puzzles me – why would ‘they’ be so obvious as to use a Malaysian Airlines aircraft? Does that not draw attention to MH370 again when the alternative media have been expressly saying there WILL BE a false flag using that aircraft?
    Why not just repaint MH370 in Aeroflot livery and whack it into a tall building in Kiev?

  17. Somewhere in Europe says:

    Gordon said “Missing Malaysian Boeing 777 is under cover and out of sight until required. Meanwhile the powers that be arrange for the plane to be transferred to Amsterdam as flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur but there’s a hitch here in that another Boeing 777 is scheduled for that flight and is reported as being cancelled while MH370 with deceased passengers remotely takes off for Kuala Lumpur and is programmed to fly into the Ukrainian hot spot were for months airlines have been avoiding the area”

    I’m wondering if that other Boeing 777 HAD to be cancelled as part of their plan so that MH370/MH17 could use its flight schedule or somesuch. I’m not an aviation expert obviously but that cancelled 777 is a sticking point for me. Maybe I’m off down a blind alley.

    As Judy Wood said about 9/11 words to the effect that the people who plan these ops also plan the cover-ups, except now they’re getting sloppy!

  18. Flight MH17 was Cancelled on 17th July. It never took off:

  19. Anonymous says:

    Here’s the spin war verdict: the current Malaysian Airlines tragedy – the second in four months – is “terrorism” perpetrated by “pro-Russian separatists” armed by Russia and Putin is the main culprit. End of story. Anyone who believes otherwise, shut up.

    Why? Because the CIA said so. Because Hillary ‘We came, we saw, he died’ Clinton said so. Because crazy Samantha ‘R2P’ Power said so – thundering at the UN, everything duly printed by the neo-con infested Washington Post.

    Because Anglo-American corporate media – from CNN to Fox (who tried to buy Time Warner, which owns CNN) – said so. Because the President of the United States (POTUS) said so. And mostly because Kiev had vociferously said so in the first place.

    Right off the bat they were all lined up – the invariably hysterical reams of ‘experts’ of the ‘US intelligence community’ literally foaming at their palatial mouths at ‘evil’ Russia and ‘evil’ Putin; intel ‘experts’ who could not identify a convoy of gleaming white Toyotas crossing the Iraqi desert to take Mosul. And yet they have already sentenced; they don’t need to look any further, instantly solving the MH17 riddle.”

    cont’d @ the link above

  20. Anonymous says:

    Veriopians comment is absolute horse shit. Laughable!

  21. Zoompad says:

    “IM UNDER NO ILLUSION OVER WHAT PURIN IS!!! (ex KGB, probably killed numerous times (bare hands!), runs a gangster Govt)… but he stands up to Rothschild, US (and Israel to an extent). BRICS summit… the dollar. Syria/Iran/Ukraine”

    Absolutly agree. I watched Peter Tatchell’s gangs antics over the Russian Olympics, and Putin standing up to them, and at the time I thought there would be funny business afterwards, and here we are less than a year later. I’ve been thinking for a long time that Tatchell and his bully boys are selfish and arrogant enough to start WW3.

  22. Zoompad says:

    Yesterday Radio 4 presenter was rabbitting on about 17/7 being a memorable day in peoples minds, and I just thought yes, just like 11/11, just exactly the same!

  23. Anonymous says:

    Re: shirlz007 @ 1:35 pm

    My thoughts same as yours more or less. They are no longer pro-Russian rebels but Putin’s rebels; they are no longer victims of pro-Russian rebels but Putin’s victims; they are no longer victims of a pro-Russian rebel missile but victims of Putin’s missile. Those three examples are from the tabloids Mirror, Sun, Express in random order. I didn’t get to see the Mail as I had to move away from the paper stand before I was sick all over it.

    It’s crystal clear that the Zionist Occupation Government controlled media is now trying to singularly demonise Putin along their usual MO lines as with Gaddafi, Hussein – even The Kaizar, Hitler and Mussolini – to manipulate the public into a fervour for war and get Putin stinking like a rotten dead fish in the eyes of the public.

    Gossip from the Killiney trail.
    What Shatter reportedly said at the Bono Bash!

    He said that Kennedy’s statements about Adolf Hitler were like grenades ready to go off for the many young Americans who admired the President and he praised the Obama administration and controlled transnational mainstream media for considerably ”dumbing-down” Kennedy on the recent anniversary of his assassination. An assassination which followed a speech the president had made about the covert operations of the House of Rothschild banksters on the world stage, often said to be ‘the speech that killed Kennedy.”

    “Shatter had reportedly jokingly replied “If they ever find out the truth about Hitler we are buggered!” The bankers all laughed one saying “Not much chance of that now we have him stinking like a dead fish all over the world!”

    “Oddly, (in multicultural Ireland) people might think,” our reporter noted, “apart from the Jews there were no non-whites at the event. Not oddly to those of us who move in high circles and see how the elites prescribe one thing for the masses and another for themselves.”

    1914: The start of World War I. In this war, the German Rothschilds loan money to the Germans, the British Rothschilds loan money to the British, and the French Rothschilds loan money to the French.

    Futhermore, the Rothschilds have control of the three European news agencies, Wolff (est. 1849) in Germany, Reuters (est. 1851) in England, and Havas (est. 1835) in France.

    The Rothschilds use Wolff to manipulate the German people into a fervour for war. From around this time, the Rothschilds are rarely reported in the media, because they own the media.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Don’t forget Biden’s remarks when Crimea decided on a democratic vote forged by Russia, (Putin) “They’ll pay for this”.

  25. Anonymous says:

    @4:32 pm “…..forged by Russia.”

    Did you mean “…..supported by Russia” or something similar? Cardboard ballot box rigging seems to be the hallmark of Western Zionist Occupation Governments – that is when they’re not imposing their Khazar puppet regimes on Kiev and the genuine Ukrainian people by using mercenary snipers to kill both Ukrainian security forces and patriots, along with bussed-in anarchists…

    No Berkut troops among ‘Maidan snipers’ – Ukrainian special forces veteran
    03.04.2014 18:18
    Berkut riot police weren’t involved in mass killings by unidentified snipers in Kiev on February 20. The detention of its officers is an attempt to tarnish Ukrainian law enforcement, Berkut veteran organization head, Vladimir Krashevsky, told RT.

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