Above all others they fear military veterans

COMMENT –  Nixon Scraypes said…

In the 21C Wire report I notice “a more humanist position”.

Human,I can take or humane, but humanist refers to a religion.  Look at their symbol the happy man, the top half can be seen as the sun rising between two peaks.

Then there’s the dove on the veterans placard.  It’s all masonic symbolism, their tag or designer label hidden as they say in plain sight.

I’m sure the protestors are genuine but the organisation has been compromised.This may seem far-fetched to you but if the symbol was a swastika you would notice it soon enough and start asking questions about who ran the organisation.

21st Century Wire says…

These are the men and women the establishment fear more than any other. 

Military veterans who live to tell the other side of the war coin are speaking out in droves, and the state fears that if they are given a big enough platform, they will be able to sway public opinion and susceptibility to state-run war propaganda away from the cold party line, and over towards the humanist position. Unless the state can keep military whistleblowers quiet, then politicians will not be able to sell the next war, or pull the patriotism card.

Formalising its gagging order policies with regards to veterans is important, because it’s the state’s way of not only neutralising dissenting veterans, but also dehumanising them by stripping away their right to free speech and expression.

Below details the stories of many such individuals including American combat veterans who served in Afghanistan, Jules Tindungan and Chris Vassey, who because of their views on war, have been forced on the run applying for asylum… in Canada.The state moving to silence veterans is nothing new, and takes many forms on both sides of the Atlantic. In Britain, one recent, and highly extreme example of the state forcibly gagging military veterans in order to avoid embarrassment over the UK government using its own soldiers as unknowing guinea pigs for nuclear testing in the South Pacific. In 2010 the Daily Mailreported:

“More than 1,000 former servicemen and their families are fighting to win £20million compensation from the Ministry of Defence after being made ‘guinea pigs’ for postwar nuclear tests in the South Pacific and Australia.They took legal action after suffering medical problems, including cancer, skin defects, infertility and genetic disorders passed on to their children, which they blame on exposure to radiation. On average, three survivors are dying each week.”One British soldier who has spoken out on behalf of other veterans and in the public interest is former British SAS special operations veteran, Ben Griffinwho gave a rousing opening statement earlier this year on the horrors and hypocrisy of 21st century wars at the Oxford Debate Union.

Vice Magazine does an excellent report on this ‘war on whistleblowing’ trend…

A Generation of US and UK War Veterans Are Being Silenced

Joe Glenton
Vice Magazine

After the Remembrance Day parade, I repaired to a central London boozer with fellow veterans to stew my brain in ale. Pinned to chests all around us were glinting banks of medals.  A statistically improbable number of airborne maroon and commando green berets were on display. Groups of veterans bunched together, slurring war stories.

The soldierly clique is cultural. While trained to be aggressive we are also taught to be quiet, keeping dark deeds and informed opinions “in-house”. If spoken aloud our stories would make us appear mad and for some, leaving the heroic fantasy intact allows one to continue living at the centre of it. To break that tribal silence carries risks.

US Army veteran Chris Vassey (right)
War fans say we have fought for freedom and democracy. Given this consensus one might think veterans are as entitled as anybody to contribute to the political discourse, as serving senior officers regularly do. Not so.
The American and British militaries clamped down on social media in mid-2000s – on the grounds of security, they claim. The Canadian military currently is trying to stop wounded veterans from criticising the military in public. There is only one hymn sheet in the military, and it is decided upon on high.
I was gagged by a military court in 2009. I had spilled no secrets. Rather I’d claimed Afghanistan occupation was an illegitimate, shambolic disaster. The keenest soldiers I know say the same, but I said it on television rather than in the regimental bar. I spent five months in a military jail over a banality. Others have faced similar or worse treatment.
Ben Griffin was the quintessential British paratrooper, an SAS soldier and a founder of Veterans for Peace UK. He left the army after refusing to return to Iraq. He later blew the whistle on war crimes being carried out in Baghdad. He was gagged in the high court and promised jail if he ever spoke about UK involvement in rendition again. “I knew I would get in trouble for speaking about our activities in Iraq,” he told me, “but I felt then and now that the public needs to be told about the true nature of war.” Kidnapping and handing over non-combatants to the Americans in the knowledge they’d be tortured is fine; telling the public about it is criminal.
Recently, when I visited Toronto to help start a new project called Front Lines International, I met soldiers facing long prison sentences for speaking out. For me, Jules Tindungan, 26, andChris Vassey, 27, were virtually impossible to tell apart from the average Canadian, but both of them are American soldiers on the run and applying for asylum in Canada.
They were experienced, door-kicking infantrymen in the US 82nd Airborne when they went to Afghanistan. After 15 months they returned home changed men. Both men – Jules first, followed by Chris – believing they had been involved in war crimes, fled to Canada where they would be able to speak out. Men like these do not refuse lightly.
Chris told me that whenever his patrol took incoming in Afghanistan “it was no holds barred… the day after, when people come to your base saying you shot up their home, tractor, farm… all we would say was, ‘Well, the enemy was on the run… don’t let them fire at us from your backyard and this won’t happen again,’ as if they had condoned it.” He saw Afghan national army soldiers “butt-stroke” local women in the face with their rifles during raids. It was, he was told, how thing were done in Afghanistan.
Jules explained that after one firefight his platoon recovered remains – bodies and body parts. These were strapped “to the hoods of trucks and driven through local towns as a sort of warning”.
Both men have been vocal in the Canadian anti-war movement. They will suffer for their words if deported. “Dudes who speak out get harsher punishments,” Jules told me. “Statements made to the media, as well as in social media, are used as evidence against you when you are sentenced.”
Jules also told me that one soldier who ended up back in the US phoned him from military prison, warning him to clear his Facebook posts and emails of any criticism of the military or the war: “They compiled a very thick docket of his Facebook statements and emails as evidence against him.”
Chris is now an ironworker but easily slips back into telling expletive-filled soldier stories about his long months spent doing “illegal shit” in “A-stan”. He confirmed what Jules had said about the risks of speaking out: “Video or audio of you speaking out is used against you – usually guaranteeing a stiffer sentence.”


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4 Responses to “Above all others they fear military veterans”

  1. Fight for queen and country.
    In the words of Ben Griffin.

    An edited version of a speech given at the Oxford Union Society
    by Ben Griffin on 7th February 2013.

    Ben Griffin is Founder of Veterans For Peace UK


  2. Anonymous says:

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  3. Nixon Scraypes says:

    In the 21C Wire report I notice “a more humanist position”.Human,I can take or humane,but humanist refers to a religion.Look at their symbol the happy man,the top half can be seen as the sun rising between two peaks.Then there’s the dove on the veterans placard.It’s all masonic symbolism,their tag or designer label hidden as they say in plain sight.I’m sure the protestors are genuine but the organisation has been compromised.This may seem far-fetched to you but if the symbol was a swastika you would notice it soon enough and start asking questions about who ran the organisation.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes …yes…some people don’t wanna see that ..buts its there for us all to see…kill in the queens name know one gets the blame …Die in her name..???

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