WOW so sorry , Tap. So sorry to hear all this.
HETT – I wonder what the history & routines of UK injections is for our children, say over the last 50 years. I’m sure there could be value (input) here from your growing gang of visitors.
This is a poignant subject like so many you highlight, Tap. But seriously too close to home. Please dont think you’d be better off back home in the UK. I have had my concerns (UK) for a while. we have had a few children. The medics always want to mess around with them towards the end & they always want to shove their hands up!!!.
Then when you get close to birth they want to break the waters and speed up the dilation. This seems to cause a more distressed birth. Surely nature knows best!!! Let it go its course unless there is a real issue needing intervention.
Maybe this is why so many now have become tummy cut births or require horrific cuts to the opening requiring stitches, nearly a production-line fast food birth. My Daughter recently gave birth where she suffered the same old messing, speeded-up dilation and waters broken for her. There was nearly a death loss here. troubling. It was a very close shave but I’m sure nothing learned.
I was horrified to find the Girl playing midwife had never bore a child. That’s got to be wrong. Text book birth is so wrong. They simply have no experience. A midwife has to be fully aware & connected to the mothers real life experience. Whilst playing nurse she simply was not connected to the reality of what mother was going through. Too much talk not enough knowledge.
Also there are now so many less births!!!,
If you only have 1 – 2 children then so much less experience for mum & dad is had in the birth front-line. The elation of a new arrival blinds many from the reality of the poor care actually received so I reckon many issues are overlooked by the distraction of a new baby.
Any thoughts or am I just ranting?
By HETT commenting on Philippine Pediatricians Secretly Inject Poisons Into New Born Babies.
HETT, I think any doubts we might have had as to your gender are now settled!! (the name HETT gives no clue) Great comment. I agree with all you say. We avoided the UK for these very reasons. A friend in Shrewsbury was induced, rushed and suffered an unnecessary Caesarian only two months ago. Very stressful. Here in the Philippines they haven’t got around to those kind of interventions yet, and you really can control whether you are sliced up with a knife or you press on with nature, as long as you are prepared to pay the birthing staff for the required number of hours of labour.
The problem in the Philippines, as it has turned out, is the continual lying at the hospital. Yes it was very poignant to find out bits of evidence of unauthorised medical intervention after the birth and before we had him in our control. We were informed with great celebration by the hospital on arrival that nothing in this hospital ever happens without the consent of the patient. That was lie number one.
Then we found a discarded vaccine box in the trash, and asked what it was doing, to be told that it was a mandatory vaccination for all new born babies. There was no mention of anything about mandatory interventions at any stage beforehand when we were briefed by Admissions or the doctor.
Not until the bill came did we then realise that the pediatrician had in fact also injected another toxic jab into the six hour old baby, who had not even had a feed or a cuddle from his mother at that stage.
For God’s sake, before he’s even had his first suck of milk, he was shot with a strong appetite suppressant.
Overall I’m still glad we didn’t have the baby in the UK, which is the meat factory you describe. Shane would undoubtedly had been forced into a Caesarian.
As HETT says, what do your experiences suggest?
Glad you are out of there! Childbirth is not an illness, and newborns are usually healthy. Separation of baby and mother starts at birth in UK too. Not good. You are supposed to abandon your baby in its plastic cot and leave it while you go to phone or toilet. Health and safety! I can’t think of anywhere healthier or safer than the mother’s arms. A baby was stolen from my ward shortly after i left. Had my second baby at home. Much better!
Hi Tap, Congratulations on having a new Son. Try not to take it too hard regarding the injections, let’s hope there are no reactions. You did your best to keep the injections away from him. It would have been the same in this Country , just different muppet’s. We can only try and educate people through your blog, like you have been doing.
We did our best for you, son. I hope you recover the alertness you had at the moment you were born. Your eyes were sparkling amazed at the crazy world you had just arrived in, responding to all the sounds going on around you.
DragonFruitMan comments –
I am a year+ ‘lurker’ of your site and this is my first post.
I’m really sorry to hear of you & your baby’s experience in Manilla.
Best place in the world to have a baby? I don’t know.
We are from the UK and had our 3rd child in Chiang Mai, Thailand.
We engaged the services of a Doula familiar with Thailand’s methods of childbirth and post birth procedures.
Essential in our opinion, we had seen enough hospital madness over the years with friends.
We left going to the hospital until the last minute and forty minutes after arriving at the hospital, my wife (a pre-natal yoga teacher) ‘breathed’ our baby out naturally with barely a push (active birth techniques).
The doctor hadn’t arrived (from a late night party), and we (Doula and me) kept the nurses away which suited us. Massage and breath was all that was needed. No hospital beds, equipment or even harsh lighting. The Doula bought some fairy lights with her!
We never let our baby out of our sight and successfully managed to avoid all the vaccinations/drops etc. usually given post birth and also at the follow up check the doctor had no problem (almost encouraged us) when we said we were not going to follow the (up to 17!) vaccinations children in Thailand have.
If we didn’t have a Doula and weren’t aware of the hospital procedures, she would have been taken away from us, injected, eye dropped etc.
3+ years on our baby is still super healthy & still breast fed (not exclusively!) and even though we’re back in the UK now, I don’t want her to receive any vaccinations, I hope that’s a fight that can be won.
This blog site is such a good resource.
TAP Thanks, Dragonfruitman. Your experience sounds amazing. You managed to stop them getting control of the baby because you used yoga. From there you were able to keep ahead of the game. But you still went into a hospital. There is always the risk they will get control and start jabbing. Congratulations on your success against the system.
By the way, the email address at Asian Hospital is firstname.lastname@example.org. If you want to find out about their services or something, you could always email them. Their website is www.asianhospital.com. I think they should be told what people think of them.
Don’t have your baby there is my advice, after our experiences. They have a huge clean building, filled with toxic low energy lighting, dangerous pediatricians who lie and managers who hide, or live on the golf course. Avoid.