For the last week Julia has been investigating the Occupy movement. This is her report.
Just watched the new David Icke vid where he tours Wall St, filmed in November after the violent Zucotti Park eviction.
This is the best and most cohesive thing I have seen on Occupy, and its relationship to OWG.
David Icke his usual insightful self, hitting the nail on the head every time. Very good interviews with protestors. Discussion of potential of OWG infiltration, and internal factions, of which there are many instances, but the movement still survives and maintains its leaderless, horizontal, directionless non-structure.
Interesting bit about the gullibility of many protestors due to a lack of knowledge of OWG. Some kind people have come to the camp and offered flu jabs which many accepted unquestioning, not understanding what is behind this. Footage of a policeman dressed as a protestor, very clear evidence. The police presence is astounding and very violent, including a broken arm and teeth knocked out. Media is repeatedly being blacked out.
Drunks and addicts are being sent there to join in and disrupt and discredit Occupy. ID documents and possessions have been confiscated, at the same time as protestors are being asked for ID to walk down the street. The overall feeling is that Occupy is still a really big threat to OWG (as at 17th Nov), but the real tasks now are to get informed of the whole truth, and to unite across all belief systems and politics.
Full length is 51 mins:
The last 14 mins only is Interview with Luke Rudkowski. Luke has been filming and recording OWS since day 1, and offers brilliant insights into the Occupy movement :
Watching this made me realise how much negative Occupy stuff is being planted on the Internet in alternative media streams (how many people and how much money are they allocating to stamp out Occupy?), including one that was recently posted in a comment on The Tap. If a vid makes me feel depressed and POWERLESS, then I have to question its source.
I can watch/read some really disturbing stuff and not feel this way, providing it comes with the right intention, because real information makes me feel EMPOWERED.
Tap Blog earlier post – Occupy is infiltrated by Soros/Tavistock crew.
‘Mr Low’ adds –
As governments around the world, including our own, face more and more popular resistance, we’re witnessing a revival of the use of agent provocateurs. An agent provocateur is the well-used tactic of using undercover military or police to join a dissenting group or protest in order to provoke others in the group to carry out illegal actions and violence. The goal is to discredit the group from the inside. Sometimes the group gets discredited with those outside. Other times the group is enticed into internal divisions and collapses.
The most recent and clumsy attempt was the Egyptian government’s use of plain-clothes police officers to incite violence amid the largely peaceful anti-Mubarak protests. They tried to resemble the genuine protesters at first, but then the Mubarak agents showed their true colors. They rode horses and camels, carrying weapons and throwing fire bombs. Even the international media wasn’t fooled. For the first time, mainstream media started using the language of agent provocateurs.
In decades past in the U.S., the FBI was exposed for using agent provocateurs to pose as members of right wing groups and the Black Panthers. This was the infamous COINTELPRO program that operated from the 1950s into the 1970s. It was thought to have been shut down in the early 1970s, but another version of it came to light during the Reagan years.
Italian police were caught using agent provocateurs during the G8 financial meeting in 2001, and the British police did the same during the 2009 G20 meetings in London. In 2007, a Canadian police force in Quebec first denied and then admitted it used disguised officers during a protest of a Security and Prosperity Partnership meeting. The police denied that the disguised officers were inciting violence, though they were carrying rocks.
New York City police officers were accused of using agent provocateurs during the 2004 Republican National Convention, and the Denver police were discovered using undercover detectives during the 2008 Democratic National Convention. In this case, police officers ended up using riot-control chemicals against their own officers. In recent years, the FBI has used a growing number of agent provocateurs to infiltrate Muslim communities in the U.S., the most notable being exposed agent Craig Monteith in Orange County, California. He said he had been paid between $2500 and $11,000 a month to help radicalize Muslims.
As the paranoia common to governments grows, the question arises: will your group or church or political action committee be targeted with agent provocateurs at some point? Why not? The targets have been quite various, with government certainly not always focused on so-called radicals. At the same time, governments’ definitions of what groups are risky can change quickly and silently. It certainly wouldn’t be advertized. Many groups haven’t discovered their agent provocateurs until years after their activity.
Would you be able to spot an agent provocateur? They try to blend in and make friends. They appear to share your interests.
Drawing from several sources, experienced observers have suggested some tips for identifying such agents. They’re not foolproof, but they’re a start.
Agents will often lack background connections or references. No one in your circles or related groups will know them.
Agents try to keep discussions and action unproductive and still. They’ll spend plenty of time debating issues, with little action. They focus on ideas over people.
They tend to create messes in groups and between group members. They leave chaos in their wake.
They tend to gravitate toward people in the group who are dissatisfied. Once relationships with those folks grow, the dissatisfaction spreads.
Some agents have been former prisoners who do this work as part of a deal. These folks tend to jump from organization to organization in a relatively short time.
Agents don’t have known sources of income. They might have a job that doesn’t match their spending or claim their money comes from prior savings.
They tend to provide gifts for key figures at first. This helps them build trust with the group.
When confronted, they will get defensive and start making their own accusations.
They act like zealots, but they don’t have the fruit of it. They have passion but don’t truly care.
Of course, good but immature people can do all these things. Discernment involves sound judgment calls. Protection from agent provocateurs increases as your group matures. If your group has rich relationships and trust, you won’t as easily fall prey to cheap provocateurs.