Eurosceptic Heads Have To Keep Cool

Voting UKIP and not Conservative allowed the Lib Dems into government, and stopped eurosceptic backbenchers from reaching Parliament.  There was no way a UKIP vote was going to achieve anything other than keep Brown in Downing Street in 2010, which was in fact EUreferendum’s declared strategy.  There was no chance of any change from that position until 2015.

There were two possibilities from voting Conservative – one that Cameron would not immediately break his promises, which he has done.  But the other possibility of a fightback from the Conservative backbenches is not yet passed.  There is a consistent small group of rebels who vote against the whips, which could yet grow.

Otherwise, what would the eurosceptic advantage have been of another five years of Labour government, as proposed by Richard North as his electoral strategy?  Cameron could easily have continued pretending he was eurosceptic another five years.  At least now UKIP has all the evidence it needs to persuade Conservatives to vote UKIP in the European Parliamentary elections.  If there is a surge there, that could pass across to the General Election in 2015, and threaten the security of many Conservative seats.  That in turn could trigger a right wing rebellion against Cameron within the party, while the party is still in power.  There is some possibility of change rather than none.

For the Conservative Party, it would be better to launch such a coup on Cameron as early as possible to reduce the damage that Cameron will do to the Party’s underlying support.

OPEN EUROPE reports that in the Nederlands, the fight against European economic government is not yet over-

EU treaty change sparks calls for referendum in the Netherlands
EUobserver reports that Geert Wilders’ PVV party is considering calling for a referendum in the Netherlands on the EU treaty changes proposed last week. The party, which the governing coalition relies on for support, has been joined by the Socialist Party, which has already called for a referendum. Socialist MP Harry Van Bommel is quoted saying that now “It all depends on the Labour party. If the Labour Party backs us, then we have a parliamentary majority.”
On his EUobserver blog, Telegraph Europe Correspondent Bruno Waterfield notes that at last week’s EU summit, EU leaders were “absolutely agreed on one thing: there must be no referendums”. 
Greek extremists thought to be behind Merkel bomb plot
Yesterday an explosive package, thought to have been sent by Greek extremists, was found and diffused at the German Chancellor’s office. The package was addressed to Chancellor Merkel and disguised as a book package; the return address was listed as the Greek Economic Ministry.
Independent WSJ Times EUobserver Irish Times Deutsche Welle Welt Stern FTD

WSJ on Greek bombs –  The dangerous packages uncovered Tuesday, which follow the discovery or detonation of similar devices in Athens on Monday, appear to mark an escalation of violence by Greek urban guerrillas amid Greece’s stringent austerity policies, imposed by the European Union and International Monetary Fund as the condition of bailing out the indebted country.
Kaletsky: “Merkel’s treaty revisions will ensure that EU fiscal federalism will have irreversible legal force”
The FT reports that German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble have launched a defence of Germany’s demands for a system for the ‘orderly rescheduling’ of sovereign debt in the eurozone, following criticism from ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet. “Nothing at all in the current rescue measures for the whole euro area and for Greece will be changed,” Merkel said yesterday. “What we are doing is talking about the future.”
The Irish Times quotes Schäuble saying that he is wary of Germany taking too great a leadership role in the EU. “I have a sceptical view of a kind of general German leadership because the term ‘hegemony’ has bad associations in the light of our history,” he wrote in FAZ yesterday.
In the Times, Anatole Kaletsky notes that the wider proposals to establish EU economic government, which will include closer monitoring of national budgets and economic policy, and sanctions for rule-breaking eurozone countries, “will shift key policies on tax and spending beyond national control”. He argues, “That one of the most controversial decisions in modern European history has been taken with almost no public awareness or debate is a tribute to the top-down style of government perfected by the EU’s political elites.” Adding that, “Ms Merkel’s treaty revisions will ensure that EU fiscal federalism will have irreversible legal force.”

THE LIST of Conservative MPs voting for a threshold on the AV referendum, a pathetically small number but the numbers of rebels prone to voting against Cameron could grow if a growing threat from UKIP were to hit them between the eyes –

The 21 Conservatives backing the thresholds were:
  • Steve Baker* (also voted No, effectively making a positive abstention)
  • Peter Bone
  • Graham Brady
  • Bill Cash
  • Chris Chope
  • Geoffrey Cox
  • Philip Davies
  • James Gray
  • Philip Hollobone
  • Eleanor Laing
  • Edward Leigh
  • Julian Lewis
  • David Morris* (also voted No, effectively making a positive abstention)
  • David Nuttall*
  • Andrew Percy*
  • Jacob Rees-Mogg*
  • Richard Shepherd
  • Keith Simpson
  • Andrew Turner
  • Andrew Tyrie
  • Sarah Wollaston*
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6 Responses to “Eurosceptic Heads Have To Keep Cool”

  1. Robin says:

    EUrosceptics were cool before the election and told you that Cameron was a EUrophile.
    Your voting policy was too, too risky.
    You wanted a huge Conservative majority, untroubled by UKIP votes .
    You were hoping that the results would not be an endorsement of the Tories Dont Mention EUrope policy .
    You then wanted Cameron to be something he wasn`t – a EUrosceptic.
    You were hoping that the huge influx of Tory MPs were not to be grateful to Cameron as their saviour .
    You then wanted them to hold a putch against him so soon after an election.

    A basic study of form would have told you that none of those things would happen.

  2. Tapestry says: you tried to keep Gordon Brown in Downing Street as a result. Eurosceptics face grim choices, and difficult ones, but at least I didn’t make that one, as many others did.

    It is better to have Cameron in Downing Street than Brown.

    It would be better not to have the Lib Dems (who UKIP helped).

    The options now are whether to be loyal to Cameron any further now he’s broken key promises on transfer of powers. I would say not.

    The UKIP option beckons for the European Elections, to send a powerful message to the Conservatives that they could yet be pushed out of the number one slot in the EP. If Conservative voters rebel in large enough numbers, that could force the change we need inside the party.

    The fundamental difference between me and you and those like you Robin, is that I see that there is still hope inside the Conservative Party. That’s my strategic thoughts are different to yours. UKIP is useful only as a lever to be used on the Conservatives, and that lever has more effect with the Conservatives in power.

    It’s a fine line, but the only option for a eurosceptic that has any chance of ultimate success, getting us right out of the EU.

  3. It is better to have Cameron in Downing Street than Brown.

    How so Mr Tap? Regarding the EU I can’t remember a government giving so much away in such a short space of time as Cameron has done.

    For all Brown’s faults, we would have got a better deal from Europe. As you acknowledge yourself it was him that kept us out of the Euro.

    Cameron is turning out to be worse than Brown when it comes to the EU.

  4. Tapestry says:

    Good point, Frog. Labour might yet be the best vote. Miliband makes eurosceptic sounds, and the left have traditionally been against the EU. If Miliband, and his union supporters, come out eurosceptic I would certainly consider voting Labour for the first time in my life looking ahead.

    But that said, Brown had to go, and all the NL trash that accompanied him.

  5. Robin says:

    So Tap,
    It`s keep the Conservative party going for sentimental reasons.
    Despite the fact that they are not fit for purpose, are led by Cameron, interfere with proper EUrosceptics and even proper conservatives , It`s keep The Party going.
    Never go forward, Let the country go asunder
    but The Party must survive .

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