No date has been set for a Commons vote on air strikes

TAP – If the government was sure of winning a vote, a date would have been set, although the Labour free vote makes it look very likely the government will win the vote when it comes.  With Labour MPs allowed a free vote by Corbyn, who claims he was overriden by his shadow cabinet, one can only imagine the juicy offers being made to bring Labour MPs across to support Blair and the Syraq war-makers.  No wonder Michael Meacher recently died of unexplained causes.  The known peace supporters in the Commons are always eliminated well before the voting starts – John Smith, Robin Cook etc.  Do MPs realise that this time they’re voting on whether to go to war with Russia, a nuclear armed state?  They don’t seem to have an inkling that this time their own necks are on the line.  Maybe Labour constituencies will bring their strength to bear and force their MPs to vote for no war on this occasion.

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GUARDIAN (cautious) –  The debate on Syria may be postponed,  Patrick Wintour reports.

Tom Watson, deputy leader of the Labour Party, has written to the Prime Minster to ask for more time to consider the issue of Syrian air strikes.

Mr Watson is sympathetic to the idea of supporting military action.

He says in his letter: “I do not believe you’ve given proper time to build consensus. As Jeremy Corbyn has made clear, parliament needs more time to make a considered decision on air strikes in Syria.”

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/nov/30/corbyn-plp-syria-free-vote-mps-a-free-vote-on-syria-would-give-cameron-victory-on-a-plate-politics-live

TELEGRAPH  (gung-ho) –

A two-hour meeting of the shadow cabinet heard that as many as 43% of Labour MPs – almost 100 of the 231-strong parliamentary party – back airstrikes, against 57% – around 132 – who would follow Mr Corbyn into the No lobby.

If correct, this would provide Mr Cameron with the “clear majority” he wants to avoid a repeat of his defeat in 2013, when he sought approval to launch action against the regime of Syria’s president Bashar Assad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12024093/Jeremy-Corbyn-on-verge-of-denying-MPs-free-vote-on-Syrian-air-strikes-live.html

BBC adds –

Jeremy Corbyn will grant Labour MPs a free vote on UK air strikes against so-called Islamic State in Syria.

Mr Corbyn’s spokesman said the shadow cabinet had “accepted his recommendation” of a free vote.

He has also requested a two-day debate in the House of Commons beforehand.

BBC chief political correspondent Vicki Young said Mr Corbyn had wanted Labour to adopt a policy of opposition to air strikes, but was forced to back down by his shadow cabinet.

The leader was given a “thorough kicking” in the meeting, she was told.

Labour’s internal party debate comes as David Cameron continues to try to build support for the extension of strikes from Iraq to Syria.

The prime minister has said he will only call a vote of MPs – to get the go ahead for the UK to launch bombing raids in Syria – when he is confident of winning.

To be confident of winning he needs enough Labour MPs to back military intervention to make up for Conservative MPs who oppose the action.

The UK parliament’s third largest party – the SNP – opposes bombing IS in Syria, with leader Nicola Sturgeon criticising Labour’s stance, tweeting that “a party that says it is anti-air strikes has just made a vote for air strikes more likely”.

Labour poll

A number of Labour frontbenchers are believed to support Mr Cameron’s calls for air strikes.

But ahead of the shadow cabinet meeting, the Labour leadership said 75% of party members it polled over the weekend had opposed bombing.

The survey was called into question with one Labour MP calling it a “rather vague consultation”.

A free vote means Labour MPs would not be ordered to vote with the leadership. Mr Corbyn had previously suggested he wanted to agree a united position within his shadow cabinet and for Labour to approach the question “as a party”.

But he was warned of resignations from his front bench if he attempted to force his party to vote with him.

‘Unanswered questions’

No date has been set for a Commons vote on air strikes – Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said the government was “continuing to build” its case.

Mr Corbyn has written to Mr Cameron requesting a two-day Commons debate to be held ahead of any vote.

A single day, the Labour leader said, “would inevitably lead to important contributions being curtailed”.

A statement from Mr Corbyn’s office said the shadow cabinet had “decided to support the call for David Cameron to step back from the rush to war and hold a full two-day debate in the House of Commons on such a crucial national decision”.

Labour “agreed to call David Cameron to account on the unanswered questions raised by his case for bombing”, including how it would bring about a negotiated settlement in Syria and which ground troops would seize territory vacated by IS, it added.

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One Response to “No date has been set for a Commons vote on air strikes”

  1. Lynn says:

    All we are left with are grubby money grabbers. All being bought. It is a complete illusion now. They are doing as their real paymasters say. They have brought this on so let them deal with it. Let’s see their sons and daughters nephews and nieces slaughtered for nothing but money. Live with it and see how they sleep at night.

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