Examining The Recent Rise Of The Flat Earth Movement

The Recent Rise Of The Flat Earth Movement 2

14th August 2015

By Makia Freeman

Contributing Writer for Wake Up World

 

 

 

The recent rise of the ‘Flat Earth Movement’ and those pushing the flat earth theory have taken the webosphere by storm.

For the record, I am not here to say I believe the Earth is flat, but I am open to the possibility. Clearly, more investigation needs to be done, and it would be wisest to admit we don’t know something rather than proceed as if we do – especially when deception has infiltrated every area of our lives.

Socrates, the father of philosophy, showed that questions are more powerful than answers; indeed, his questions were so powerful that the leaders of Athens put him to death for them. So, let us never be afraid to ask questions – it is the only way we can learn and be truly sure of things.

Whatever the answer turns out to be, the idea that the Earth on which we all live could indeed be flat has ignited intense curiosity and healthy debate – and has already shaken people out of their apathy and generated some genuine critical thinking. This in itself is a victory for freedom, because once enough people start to question their reality in every way, the global conspiracy being only held up by deception and subterfuge will collapse.

It Sounds Crazy, But Open Your Mind …

Virtually everyone who first comes to the subject of flat earth (myself included) is thinking: “Flat earth? Are you serious? You must be kidding. That’s crazy! Don’t waste my time. That Makia Freeman guy has really gone off the deep end this time …” I know, I know. That’s how I first reacted to this topic. Let’s face it: we’re all conditioned to believe the world is arranged in a certain way. Right from the moment we go to school around age 5, we are shown miniature globes of the world and told the Earth is a ball. Our society makes fun of people we perceive to be crazy or behind the times by deriding them as “people who still think the world is flat.”

But how do you know the Earth is a globe? Only because you were told so by your teacher, who was told by someone else, who was told by someone else, who was told by someone else, who was told by some “authority” or “expert”. We already know the tendency humanity has for worshipping those outside of itself, for unquestioning obedience to authority, especially other people in uniform, white coats or black robes. Somewhere along the way as a child, you were probably shown some books with photographs, but as has been well exposed, space photos and videos are easily faked, as NASA knows very well. Those at the very top of the pyramid, who control the media, publishing houses and the education curriculum, do have the means to pull of such a grand deception.

Is the Flat Earth the Mother of All Conspiracies?

The question of whether we live on a flat earth or globe-shaped earth is not some passing fad of little importance. If we have been deceived into thinking the earth is a globe when it is really flat, it conclusively proves just how easily we can be hoodwinked into believing lies and absurdities on a colossal scale. If we have been massively fooled about the very planet on which we live, we could have been fooled on any other topic in existence.

Is the debate over the flat earth the “Mother of all Conspiracies”? Not quite, in my opinion. If it’s true, it’s huge: I’d call it the second biggest conspiracy. The biggest conspiracy, though, is forgetting Who We Are – infinitely creative, spiritual beings having a brief human journey – and allowing other entities to siphon off our life energy. This includes the issue of what happens when we die (ie. whether we are forcibly recycled at the point of death through a soul net?)

In my opinion, flat earth is a close second, but ultimately, the two issues are connected; authors such as James of the Wing Makers have joined the two in their work — by describing our world as the Hologram of Deception and describing the phenomenon of forced reincarnation. The notion that we are entrapped in some kind of holographic quarantine is highly disturbing, yet deserves our full attention.

 

Gleason's New Standard Map Of The World 1892 (Source: https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:7h149v85z/)

What is the Flat Earth Model?

The flat earth model contends that the Earth exists on a giant, flat plane, with the Arctic (or North Pole) at the center, and a giant wall of ice (the Antarctic) surrounding the entire disc and forming the circumference. The implication of this is that we live in a giant dome, that “space” as we know it does not exist, and that all the planets and stars we see at night are like projections on the ceiling of a planetarium.

Let’s take a look now at the points for and against the flat earth model.

Points For the Flat Earth Model

Lack of visible or measurable curvature: 

The horizon looks flat to the eye. Researchers have claimed that the skyline of cities such as New York City and Philadelphia are visible 40-60 miles away from the ground, when the alleged curvature of the Earth should not permit them to be seen. The famous Bedford Canal experiment performed in 1838 by Samuel Rowbotham showed that a canoe or small boat was visible from 6 miles away along a river (when the curvature of the earth should have rendered it invisible below the horizon or line of sight). Is this light refraction or evidence of a flat earth?

Lack of discernible spin:

When a plane is airborne, if the earth were really spinning, pilots should use a spinning earth in their calculations. Why don’t they? The plane would also be landing on a moving target. Why isn’t this accounted for?

Admiral Byrd’s Antarctic expedition:

Admiral Richard E. Byrd was a courageous explorer who earnt the trust of the US Government. They sent him to Antarctica on a military mission in 1947. He reported that in Antarctica he ran into UFOs – “vehicles which could travel from one pole to the other in less than an hour” as he wrote in his diary – and found his way into the center of the earth, “inner earth”, where the temperature was warm, vegetation grew and a Nordic race of people lived.

Remember, this was a hardened, rational military man writing such things. In this video interview, he also reveals that beyond the South Pole there was still much of Antarctica left unexplored (an area the size of the USA in fact). After this Governments of the world joined forces and made Antarctica off limits and all trips there are now highly regulated. Why?

The problem of the Sun’s heat: 

If the sun is really 93 million miles away, how does its heat travel through space (an apparent vacuum) to reach us? Can the vacuum of space conduct or transfer heat? If not, can the atmosphere of Earth take the sun’s light and transform it into heat? If so, how does that work? Has it been proven beyond all doubt?

The problem of the Sun’s light: 

flat earth sunshine

Sometimes you can see the sun’s rays coming in at wide angles. How could this be if they were all coming from 93 million miles away? From that distance they are essentially parallel. Does the atmosphere disperse them? If so, how? Has this been proven beyond all doubt?

Strange Southern Hemisphere flight patterns:

Why are there so few direct flights in the Southern Hemisphere? Why do planes flying from places like Sydney (Australia) to Johannesburg (South Africa) routinely go via places like Dubai in the Middle East, which is completely off course and out of the way? The direct flight would be around 12 hours and planes have enough fuel to do this without needing to stop. Why are planes’ GPS turned off during Southern Hemisphere flights, so that their exact trajectories can not be easily tracked?

Points Against the Flat Earth Model

Photographic evidence:

Some researchers have stated that almost all the spherical images we have of Earth are patched-together composites. However, that is “almost”. How do you explain the existing spherical images we have of Earth, such as this high-definition one, reportedly taken by Russia’s weather satellite, the Electro-L?

Faking of all space flights, space station and space footage:

We know how much fakery has gone with space footage, whether it’s NASA’s dubious photos and videos of the moon landings or the fake ISS (International Space Station) footage, some even showing people wearing scuba gear. China got in on the act too, as can be seen with this bubble escaping the “astronaut’s” or swimmer’s helmet. But given how much footage is out there, can 100% of it be fake?

Satellites:

How does the flat earth model deal with satellites? Do they exist or are they faked?

Varying star constellations: 

You can see constellations in the Southern Hemisphere that you can’t see in the Northern Hemisphere, and vice versa. How is this possible on a flat earth?

Other celestial bodies:

Other celestial bodies appear to be globes, such as the Moon and the Sun, not to mention other planets. Are they spheres? And if so, why are they spheres and the earth is not?

The existence of extraterrestrials:

Can the flat earth model support existence of extraterrestrials? How do they fit into the equation? Are other planets not globes or planets as such, but rather other discrete and enclosed holograms which can be linked by sophisticated technological travel?

[Sidenote: Washington lawyer Andrew Basiago, the man who claimed he teleported to Mars as part of DARPA and the CIA’s Project Pegasus in the 1960s and 1970s, now thinks he did not necessarily go to the planet “Mars” but rather an SQE (Synthetic Quantum Environment), an artificial holographic planetary domain that he was told was Mars. Basiago, by the way, revealed in this interview with Lisa Harrison that he intends to join the 2016 presidential race. Imagine the exposure a mass audience would receive if Basiago started delving into topics such as teleportation, Mars colonies, extraterrestrials and the flat earth theory …]

Whistleblower Randy Cramer/Captain K:

How do we reconcile the flat earth with Randy Cramer who, as part of the “USMC ss” (United States Marine Corps – Special Service), claims he was on a spaceship and literally saw it fly off into space, from the Moon to Mars?

Center of gravity: 

On a flat plane, isn’t the center of gravity at the center of the plane? If so, then when we fall, why are we pulled straight down to the ground rather than towards the center (the North Pole in the flat earth model)?

Alternatively, if the flat plane is rotating, wouldn’t the centrifugal force cause us to fall outward, toward the the edges of the plane (the Antarctic)?

The Catholic Church supported the flat earth:

The Catholic Church has been a leader throughout the last 2,000 years of suppressing information, keeping people scared and ignorant, and ruling through fear and guilt. It is highly strange and out of character, therefore, that when it comes to this issue of a flat earth, that the Church would be on the side of the truth. The Church killed or condemned at least 3 people (Copernicus, Galileo, and Giordano Bruno) for proposing the currently-accepted heliocentric model of our solar system. If the flat earth were true, why would the Church kill or condemn those who proposed a false model when it has a history of hiding the truth?

 

The Recent Rise Of The Flat Earth Movement 3

 

Could the Earth be Both Flat and a Globe?

Finally, I will end this article by quoting Project Camelot’s Kerry Cassidy on the flat earth subject. She wrote:

In my view the “flat earth” people are simply seeing things in a hyper dimensional (collapsing the wave) mode. They are seeing a Planet “plane-net” from the point of view that reduces everything out of the hologram view into a sort of continuum of unlimited horizons viewed condensed, as in, down to the “thought” of source vs. the multi-dimensional aspects which allow you and I to navigate and go deeper into the quantum moment for the purpose of ‘experiencing the whole’.

It is similar to the way we view time. We see time as linear when it is actually simultaneous. In reality, time is an illusion. All things happen simultaneously. Well, if space is viewed the same way you could in essence say there is no space … space is an illusion or hologram. Everything it is at the same time infinite and infinitesimal and can be reduced to a single point … zero point or simultaneity.

As David Icke, the late Michael Talbot (who wrote The Holographic Universe), some Western scientists and many others have said — the world is a giant hologram. It looks, feels, smells, tastes and seems like something solid, but is actually mostly empty space made from energy vibrating at a slow rate. Essentially, we live in a giant version of the Holodeck on Star Trek. Quantum physics has shown us that the atom can appear as a particle (matter) or a wave (energy) and displays characteristics of both simultaneously. The wave is all possibility until it “collapses” (due to our observation and intent) into a particle and solidifies.

Is it possible that flat earth people are looking at the “wave” aspect of the atom rather than the “particle” aspect? Could the Earth be flat on an unlimited plane, until it collapses into particle form and becomes a sphere?

It is an open question that remains to be solved, but meanwhile, it is greatly encouraging to see people taking such an active part in questioning everything around them, because it is only by asking questions that we can gain freedom from ignorance and enslavement.

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About the author:

Makia Freeman is the editor of The Freedom Articles and senior researcher at ToolsForFreedom.com, writing on many aspects of truth and freedom, from exposing aspects of the global conspiracy to suggesting solutions for how humanity can create a new system of peace and abundance. An avid promoter of freedom, truth and health, his mission is to expose the truth, raise awareness about the conspiracy to enslave mankind and to help create a critical mass of people to stand up against it – and thus restore peace and freedom to the world.

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50 Responses to “Examining The Recent Rise Of The Flat Earth Movement”

  1. Nike says:

    “It Sounds Crazy, But Open Your Mind …”

    No, you needn’t open your mind to crazyness.There’s a level of IDIOCY being forced upon us that’s unbearable.
    Diversion from that what really matters.

    • nick says:

      I agree with you, this is embarrassing, and when I suggest to people to look at tapnewswire if they happened to load the page while this article on the top then I expect it would be mentioned to me derisively every time I talk about alt news topics.

      Things like this give the internet a bad name

    • JohnKnight says:

      It is rather easy to confirm that the sun passes through the same portion of its total daily path across the sky, regardless of the time of day.

      This would not be true if the sun was fading into the distance as it “set”. It would (rather obviously) appear to ascend and descend much more slowly than it appeared to move at midday.

      The idea that any serious ancient sky observers didn’t notice this is kind of rediculous to me, , and I know of no evidence that the flat earth “model” was taken seriously by any serious sky observers, ever.

      This whole thing is a con-game, I feel quite certain. Its based on the old cliche that people used to think the earth was flat (which some people surely did in any given place at any given time, even the present).

      Why would such a con-game be played now, one might ask . . Well, to expand on another old cleche; There’s a sucker born every minute, and about sixty conmen every hour ; )

      • JohnKnight says:

        PS,

        I didn’t mean to imply that I think this is just a con-game that some people randomly took up for personal benefit, though that is probably true for some who play it.

        I have delved into the history of this “game”, and what I found was clear evidence (to my eyes) of a very long term propaganda campaign.

        The simplest way to explain the campaign, is perhaps to point out how easily our “ruling elites” could justify a global governance regime, in the face of an apparent “extra terrestrial” crisis.

        And, how easily harsh treatment of those who “clung” to then ostensibly outdated beliefs and principals (like self governance and unalienable human rights), could be justified in the name of the collective good.

        Our modern “ruling elites” now have a great many marvelous toys to play with, and faking an alien presence would be rather easy, from what I’ve observed. And it’s the testing and use of those toys that many have been conned into seeing as evidence of space aliens visiting us.

        It’s a contingency plan, I say, which has been fostered and nurtured by the same hyper-wealthy elites who can get us to accept handing over many billions of dollars of the publics money to them, on the grounds that we desperately need their ponzi scheme banking cartels afloat. (And con us into reelecting the politicians/Partyies who facilitate such blatant boondoggles, on the grounds that they wuv us so ; )

        The same pack of elite con artists, I say, not our champions in a rebellion against them . . As the military planners espouse; Full Spectrum Dominance, so they implement., relentlessly.

        (Or as the “Spiritualist” branch of that dominance ensemble espouse; As above, so below. ; )

    • dkblue says:

      Totally agree.
      Great article on Henry Makow (Jan 2016) re the psyop that is the flat earth distraction
      He says,
      The Flat Earth fad is a “conspiracy theory” designed to
      distract, divide and discredit those who understand
      modern society has been enslaved by the Judeo Masonic (Satanic) conspiracy. It creates cognitive dissonance, and make us question all our assumptions, especially those which are True.
      – See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/#sthash.H2Dag6Mo.dpuf

      • Yes. You were right last month yr Dubay instinct.
        I got sucked right down the rabbot hole last month on all this. But I can be forgiven. Bcoz the statue of liberty for example, being visible 60 miles away, by ships captains. Contrasted sharply with our Freemason Official Dogma we are spoonfed at school and via media etc.
        So I freaked out. However despite being sucked down the rabbit hole massively. I did the best I could, and Henry and I set about addressing Dubays assertions in December. (Henry did all the maths).
        Henry debunked Dubay with his maths.

        We are exonerated of being total psyop victim dupes! We did our best Abi.

        – Interesting how so much energy by TPTB has gone into this flat earth psyop.
        – Also interesting how, we teased out the Truth from Dubays deceptions.
        – What did we conclude? That even thougnDubay was wrong, he left us a valuable clue, the Earths curvature was much much more gentle
        – So CIA Mossad MI5 Vatican etc could certainbly cause chaos splitting the online awakening community, because THE EARTH IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THEYVE TOLD US. OR AT LEAST AS WELL, AN OBLATE SPHEROID, BUT SURELY BIGGER TOO.

        This means, Eric Dubay could get away with deceivbing us all like he did. THE EARTH IS SO BIG, OUR UN UNITED NATIONS PART OF IT, IS ONLY ONE PART. OUR PART SEEMS RELATIVELY FALT, COMPARED TO THE LIES THEYVE TOLD US IN SCHOOL. HENC THE DECEPTION

        This miught have been a long laid deception trap. Maybe to distract from Planet X? or something else. Who knows
        Unmoderated comment to come

      • dkblue says:

        I don’t think it was a waste of time exploring the question either. I don’t believe we have an unedited photo of the earth from space and there seems to be many lies coming from Never A Straight Answer! Why if they are now openly calling it an oblate spheroid the ubiquotous round earth photo hasn’t been publicly questioned?
        Eric Dubay and friends are a slick attractive package and I never trust slick attractive packages! They are usually a deception….

  2. ferryt says:

    There are Too many unanswered questions though. Valid Qs IMO. Especially
    Since we’ve been lied to so much

    Have a look on Google earth at the poles.

    Would you spin around if you stood on the poles?

    If the earth is a spinning sphere (~700 mph ground speed in UK – I maybe wrong) why or how do flights east-weat or west-east not reflect this?

    That’s just a few high level layers..

  3. Men Scryfa says:

    An excellent and pioneering article.

    Once this is accepted as fact I hope some will remember which of us called it out first.

    • I wonder whether David Frosts son was killed as some kind of retaliation of intel received by TPTB that david frost is being a very good witness as we speak…
      or it could simply be father and son wanted to be together
      But something fishy going on

      The kids company Batmangelidjh thing is certainly strange, and I slotted it into things coleman said. Cameron was ‘mesmerised’ by her
      I have to wonder just what david frosts been upto. A high Satanic Priest perhaps
      Hes certainly been at the forefront over decades to push the cabal agenda in many ways, bend and shape public perception

      On flat earth I find it all very odd and confusing

      Cilla black pop article I left some comment a while ago in caseyou missed it, on liz taylor

    • Could there be some kind of spiritual/entity thing going on with this? Could it be, by having prolonged eye contact, it somehow taps in via brain centers maybe the pineal…and this experiment shows, we see the fringes, get a glimpse, of other dimensions? The spiritual world? Maybe this is one of the big secrets, eyes, eye contact. I certainly think there is something more going on when eye contact is made. And I can say this with no exaggeration or drama – times ive made eye contact with a beautiful woman , or had more prolonged conversation, I would swear that packets of data, information, were being transferred by eye contact. Im talking about large volumes of data, one in 2013 in particular , this was a real thing I reflected on. I also note people are saying the MKUltra programming stuff, entity attachments are involved. it seems trauma based mind control could be some kind of…spiritual technology, spiritual mind control physics/techniques.

      ”These results indicate that dissociative symptoms and hallucinatory phenomena during interpersonal-gazing under low illumination can involve different processes,’ Dr Caputo writes in the paper, published in the journal Psychiatry Research

      Dr Caputo believes there is something about staring into another person’s eyes that has a profound effect on people’s perception and mental states.

      He writes that ‘strange-face apparitions’ may occur during the rebound to ‘reality’ from the exercise, which he describes as a ‘dissociative state induced by sensory deprivation’.”

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3203198/Look-eyes-Staring-s-pupils-10-minutes-make-HALLUCINATE-monsters.html

    • [As above so below, macro/micro, humany body acupuncture meridiens/earth leylines/ universe has its own acupuncture points too. It seems stargates are real. Its rumoured for example one is located at the strait of Hormuz. I think battles over control of stargate portals might underpin a lot of geopolitics we see around us]

      EXAMPLES OF CORRESPONDENCE POINTS

      An example of correspondence on our bodies is that rubbing certain points on one’s feet can reduce pain in a distant part of the body such as the head or the tip of a finger. The points that one must rub on the feet are examples of correspondence points. This just means that they correspond to another part of the body.

      Other words used to describe these points on the body are reflex points or zones. However, these are not as accurate because the points are not nerve reflexes. While they are zones, this is somewhat vague. One could also call them resonance points, induction points, or entrainment points. Polarity therapy, a healing modality, calls them zones or examples of the body’s polarity. I will use the words correspondence points in this article, as I think it is the easiest words to use.

      Correspondence is everywhere. In fact, correspondence points are found throughout the human body. They are found on the hands, in the vagina, in the colon, in the ear, in the iris of the eye, on the head, on the spine, and elsewhere.

      Correspondence points in space. Interestingly, I am told that correspondence points also exist throughout space. This would imply that our universe, with all of its planets, stars and other heavenly bodies is not random, but grew and developed using a fractal design.

      Control points. This is the name given to special correspondence points that are particularly powerful. From these points, it is much easier to communicate and control distant parts of a human body or distant areas of space.

      A KEY TO OUR DESIGN

      The fact that the correspondence principle works, and it does on bodies and in space, gives us a key to our design. Words to describe that design include:

      1. Holographic, meaning that the whole is contained in the parts. Indeed, several modern physicists have put forth this exact theory. One is Dr. Michael Talbot, who wrote The Holographic Universe (1992, 2011).

      2. More importantly, the design is fractal. This means that the body, and our universe, grew and developed in an organic fashion making use of repeating patterns based on simple whole numbers.

      In other words, there was not just one huge “big bang” explosion that created our universe. Instead, it appears that the creation of our universe was a slow and deliberate process that followed specific rules and procedures
      http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/CORRESPONDENCE.htm

    • Adam Spiritualwarrior Exposing the Secret Space Programme says:

      evelyn Rothschild, is a cunt, as are all rothschilds
      They think they’ve got us over a barrel but things aren’t working out for rothschilds. Despite what they hope and the MSM preach.
      its clear to me whats going on
      Very clear
      And just wait till the gloves come off, rothschilds etc can only operate this way when humanity has the gloves ON, and don’t know things, I have a feeling the tides changing despite massive infiltration in the alternative media by Israel, Vatican, Rothschild twats, all of them. take 95% of AM with a pinch of salt incl Cobra. I used to believe everythigb cobra said, now I don’t. Its all too easy. But somethings coming, some truths coming, somethings influencing the elites, somethings driving them to jump through hoops. Could it be the long prophecised, evidence based, Superwave ? etheric.com dr paul laviolette pass this info on

    • ANTI-AGING AND ETHERIC RESET

      by Lawrence Wilson, MD

      Full Article here http://drlwilson.com/Articles/ETHERIC%20RESET.htm

      WHAT IS ETHERIC RESETTING?

      This is the idea that as certain conditions within our bodies are fulfilled or achieved, more etheric energy, life force, vital force or chi can flow into and through the body. This energy will restore protein synthesis by our DNA. As this occurs, the more rapid and more accurate protein synthesis can actually reverse some or even all of the aging process.

      TYPES OF ETHERIC ENERGY

      The key to enhancing etheric energy in the body is that there are several sources of etheric energy that we can utilize. The main three are:

      1. Intrinsic etheric. This is the etheric we are born with.

      2. Environmental etheric. This is etheric energy found in our food, water, air and certain locations. We can absorb some of this through our diet, breathing, and where we live. We will absorb much more of it if the body is kept in balance and healthy.

      3. New etheric. This is etheric energy in the environment that we can draw into the body through the Pushing Down Exercise described on this website.

      MORE DETAIL ABOUT ENHANCING THE ABSORPTION OF ETHERIC ENERGY

      Many factors can be used to enhance etheric energy in the body. Since ancient times, these methods have included special diets, along with herbs, prayers, chanting, and other methods.

      Nutritional balancing science is more modern, developed only in the past 50 years. Dr. Eck, the founder of this science, discovered that to enhance health people’s needs are different than they were even a generation ago. He did not know about etheric energy, and I have continued his research.

      So far (September 2015), the factors that work best to 1) conserve our intrinsic etheric, 2) enhance absorption of environmental etheric, and 3) enhance absorption of new etheric energy include:

      1. Much more rest and sleep.

      2. Stress reduction.

      3. Removing about two dozen toxic metals and removing hundreds of toxic chemicals from our bodies.

      4. Avoidance of toxins of all types. This generally includes avoiding:

      A. Most all pharmaceutical drugs unless absolutely needed.

      B. All recreational drugs, alcohol, and most over-the-counter drugs.

      C. Exposure to other toxic substances such as insecticides, pesticides, solvents, thousands of food chemicals, and others.

      5. Restoring dozens of vital nutrients such as vitamins, minerals and perhaps many other chemicals needed by the body.

      6. Deep breathing to obtain more oxygen.

      7. Hydrating the body properly with the correct type and amount of water. We find that only spring water is best for long-term use. Carbon-filtered tap water will usually work, although sometimes this is not of good enough quality.

      8. Balancing the body chemistry in a precise way. The proper method to assess and monitor this delicate process is a properly performed hair mineral analysis and a properly designed nutrition program based upon it. The program involves the use of about eight to ten nutritional supplements that must be recommended properly. The details of these programs are the subject of many other articles on this website.

      9. Making the body much more yang in macrobiotic terms. This means strictly avoiding raw food diets, smoothies, vegetarian diets, eating sugar and other yin foods, activities and attitudes. Note that raw foods and even a vegetarian diet may help one’s health temporarily, but over time it will make the body more yin, and this is deadly. I have found this repeatedly to be true.

      10. Retaining one’s sexual fluids as much as possible.

      11. Eliminating chronic infections of all types using nutritional balancing, and not other methods such as herbs, drugs, or even colloidal silver and natural products.

      12. Structural correction with chiropractic and soft tissue correction may also be needed.

      13. I have found that other procedures such as colon cleansing with coffee enemas, and near infrared lamp sauna therapy are also extremely helpful today for most people.

      14. The pushing exercise is absolutely needed to bring in new etheric energy.(see the Pushing Exercise article.)

      Restoring etheric energy, or etheric reset, is the secret to the entire nutritional balancing program, and is why it works as well as it does.

      This seems fantastic and impossible to most medical doctors, and to most holistic doctors as well, but it is true.

    • However Men scryfa im still unsure whether the Dubay psyop has threads of truth bait running thru it though

      – Henry calculated a much much more gentle curvature indicating earth is much bigger than we thought. And Dubay gets away with the deception, since, yes, as he claims. Plane trigonometry only works for seafarers, not spherical. Since our bit of Earth could seem almost flat. Therefore how huge is it?
      My point is, flat earth seems to be debunked

      – i am troubled by Dubays claims about the Sun and Moon. Dont know where to begin to stress test that
      – Heliocentrism vs geocentrism has put the cat amongst the pigeons in my mind. Gut feeling this morning is, heliocentrism is true.
      – But then again maybe not. Earth, Moon, Sun sizes, eclipse etc. Is on my mind. Its as though some intelligent Creator moved with His hands, and
      shaped, the moon and sun and like a game. Set all this up. Either that or an intelligent advanced intergalactic race.
      – The fact no proper photos have ever been seen of earth from space. Why do they lie and NOT tell show us earths oblate spheroid
      – oblate spheroid could be too another distraction psyop. I dont think so though
      – Why do the other planets and moon, look perfectly spherical. Yet we alone are an odd oblate spheroid?
      – Could it be MS. That the REAL truth they want to hide is that earths perfectly spherical. But simply much bigger and Supermassive than theyve said
      – Im prepared to consider and accept, that admiral Byrd and inner earth might be another psyop. Truth might simply be hidden surface lands.
      – However Inner Earth…..there really could be things , civilisations. Parallel races in cities, breakaway ancient civilisations

      We must proceed and tread cautiously, alert to Lucifers attempts at Deception on our path

  4. Nollidge says:

    “How does the sun’s heat reach Earth through the vacuum of space?.”
    Er…RADIATION?.

  5. sovereigntea says:

    If the Earth were flat sunrise and sunset would be at the same time everywhere on the planet.

    PS light bulbs do not emit light, they absorb darkness hence when you switch a bulb on the room appears brighter. 🙂

    • ian says:

      Quite right S and if my vague memory serves me right, in the rhyme of the ancient mariner, it makes mention of the ship heading south and dropping below the harbour, below the light house top.
      Anyone who has been at sea will know how things gradually appear over the horizon. At first just the top is visible. An indication of a curve, no?

      • nick says:

        Well, the earth is flat but the sea is curved you see. It’s because the sea is deeper in the middle and shallow at the edges so thats why it dips down at the shaw and bows up in the middle! There is an answer to all your ‘science’ and ‘logic’ and observational nonsense 🙂

        (I can dig this flatearthishness too)

    • ian says:

      Another salient point. In good viewing conditions, good seeing in astronomical terms, wherever you stand looking at the sea, the horizon is at eye level, an abrupt line, sea then sky, not sea fading into the distance as it would be if it was F***ing flat. Come on. I can see it now, oh the holocaust yes, it isn’t as you were led to believe, it was terrible yes and people died in the camps, but there was no deliberate death policy. Where did you get this shite, no not shite mate, have a look on Tap’s site, oh that’s the one where they believe the earth is flat isn’t it. Come on folks. FFS.

    • SOVEREIGNTEA LOOK AT THIS. SEE WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT SATELLITES. I THINK WE SHOULDHAVE AN OPEN MIND. THIS ERIC DUBAY ARGUES HIS POINTS VERY WELL
      December 12, 2014 at 1:44 AM

      Eric Dubay said…
      Hey Veritopian, you can see for yourself with two fixed telescopes the stars have not moved an inch over 6 months, 190,000,000 miles of supposed orbit around the Sun. This is not “out of date,” it is just as pertinent now as ever. The link you gave claims to measure “stellar parallax” of stars that can only be “reliably measured due to space-based instruments like the Hipparcos satellite.” As I showed in the NASA Fail Compilation, satellites are a hoax, they do not exist, and so all data supposedly retrieved by them is merely heresay. Relativity can only be invoked to explain vertically-fired cannonballs, the horizontally-fired cannonballs in all cardinal directions must take into account either the Earth’s supposed constant Eastward rotation and/or the atmosphere’s supposed motion into the results. Simply invoking Einstein’s “relativity” universal-trump-card in this instance is not sufficient. Also, if the atmosphere is somehow magically rotating along with the Earth, it must be rotating faster and faster the higher up into the “troposphere” you go, increasing in perfect, unnoticeable increments. Then the “stratosphere” would have to be rotating ever faster to keep up because it is that much further away from the center of rotating, right!? Then the “mesosphere” air would be going ridiculously fast, and the “thermosphere” wildly whipping around at tens or hundreds of thousands of miles per hour… and then somehow NASA rockets, satellites and space shuttles are able to calculate and manage all these tumultuous motions and at some arbitrary point they claim this whirlwind ceases and their shuttles emerge from thousands of mile per hour atmosphere and into the empty vacuum of Zero G outer-space! Ye all have more faith in NASA than I. Peace
      December 12, 2014 at 2:39 AM

      Eric Dubay said…
      Star trail time-lapse photography is absolute proof that Earth is the stationary center of the universe around which everything in the sky revolves. If the Earth’s supposed motion was what caused the star trail effect, Earth would have to be performing daily 360 loop-de-loops, inverting upside down, coming back around, and NOT rotating on an axis, otherwise the same stars would not remain visible in the sky for well over 12 hours (as they do), and would all move across the sky horizontally! The fact that we can see the same stars all night long revolving perfect circles around Polaris proves it is the stars moving relative to a fixed Earth and not the Earth doing roller-coaster loops around Polaris! Also, the stars are all said to be at varying incredible distances from one another so their relative positions to each other should be shifting constantly. In actual fact, however, all the stars maintain their positions relative to one another day after day, year after year. This is only possible if we are fixed and the universe is a fixed sphere moving around us, like a planetarium dome.

      Please watch the following!
      Star Trails Prove Earth is the Center of the Universe
      December 12, 2014 at 2:42 AM
      http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/12/earth-center-universe.html?showComment=1418330387454#c295710633998969917

  6. Dogman says:

    There is a Flat Earther card in the Illuminati playing card set.

    It reads:
    People laugh, but the Flat Earthers know something.
    …the Flat Earthers weird alternate geology has led them to a gold strike, and you may draw as many Plot cards as the number you rolled.

    How did Steve Jackson know the Illuminati Plan so precisely back in 1990? In fact, he knew the Plan so exactly he got a surprise visit from the Secret Service, who tried their best to shut him down and prevent him from publishing his game.

    I think it is probably designed to mess with our heads, cause distraction. If that’s been out there since 1990, why has it gained momentum now?

    • I think you have a point here.
      Ive seen those 1980s illuminati playing cards showing the twin towers, the pentagon burning, the fukushima thing clearly shown.
      The earth might not probably isn’t ‘flat’.
      But theres something strange about lat Earth being in these playing cards.
      I think Flat Earthers in the illuminati might actually know something.
      it MIGHT be, and I forgot where I read this, maybe even on Tapblog….

      I read this quantum physics Consciousness thing, wave/particle Schroedingers cat stuff…..The earth is flat yet when human consciousness focussess on reality, the surrounding space stops being a Wave and becomes a particle, and they said, suddenly a 3D spherical thing results.
      Im not explaining this well

      This might be complete rubbish. But a site, a woman I think, called Yellow Rose For Texas, has said some pretty strange mindblowing things. A major article/film has been ‘The Lie That Nasa Told’.
      Its quite overwhelming and I haven’t even watched studied it all.
      It does certainly make me wonder, maybe reality out there has been a total 20th century lie. Maybe a huge lie.
      YRFT says, the Papal Key, the sign, shows the sun , the 3 knobs on it being interdimensional portals, this is what the Vatican Elites know. Apparently.

      I don’t think the earth I flat. But I think something strange could still be going on, it might not be a sphere either.
      If its flat, how does this account for ice in the arctic, in the centre of the flat earth, and ice at the perimeter edges, Antarctic ice, wouldn’t Antarctic edge melt? Or Arctic? one being closer to the sun.

      I don’t know, my minds blown. But I have an instinctive sense not to trust nasa and I think there is something fundamental, the nature of space outside our planet, the reality in the solar system, is not like the 20th century books and films have brought us up on

    • Flat Earth.
      I once flew from heathrow then stopped in Moscow, then carried onto Tokyo. And went over the north pole. I looked down in 1987 and saw the ice of the north pole.
      And apparently Aeroflot flight arrived sooner in Tokyo compred to had it gone across laterally, along the earth
      Some mysterious comments that confuse me. The southern hemisphere. No records of flight paths. No short cuts. ill have to look into this more. Im open to the idea of a flat earth.
      yet there seems to be convincing evidence there isn’t a flat earth?
      Maybe its simply just fuel cost and not geographically convenient, to make weird short cuts in the southern hemisphere. Howebver Gordon a lot of minths ago pointed out a very very odd, anomnaly about flying to Australia, and flat earth theory. Cant remember it exactly but got my antennae up.

      Dogman I think the iulluminati whoever they are have known what they wanted to do a long long time. U despair the people whio refuse to see when evidence presented in front of their faces
      I hope we will be alright
      if you reply please click reply buton cheers

    • ON TOPIC

      “If the Government or NASA had said to you that the Earth is stationary, imagine that. And then imagine we are trying to convince people that ‘no, no it’s not stationary, it’s moving forward at 32 times rifle bullet speed and spinning at 1,000 miles per hour.’ We would be laughed at! We would have so many people telling us ‘you are crazy, the Earth is not moving!’ We would be ridiculed for having no scientific backing for this convoluted moving Earth theory. And not only that but then people would say, ‘oh then how do you explain a fixed, calm atmosphere and the Sun’s observable movement, how do you explain that?’ Imagine saying to people, ‘no, no, the atmosphere is moving also but is somehow magically velcroed to the moving-Earth. The reason is not simply because the Earth is stationary.’ So what we are actually doing is what makes sense. We are saying that the moving-Earth theory is nonsense. The stationary-Earth theory makes sense and we are being ridiculed. You’ve got to picture it being the other way around to realize just how RIDICULOUS this situation is. This theory from the Government and NASA that the Earth is rotating and orbiting and leaning over and wobbling is absolute nonsense and yet people are clinging to it, tightly, like a teddy bear. They just can’t bring themselves to face the possibility that the Earth is stationary though ALL the evidence shows it: we feel no movement, the atmosphere hasn’t been blown away, we see the Sun move from East-to-West, everything can be explained by a motionless Earth without bringing in all these assumptions to cover up previous assumptions gone bad.” -Allen Daves

  7. ian says:

    Could certainly be used to discredit internet news . It’s a load of bollocks, but even if it were remotely true it could and would be used against us.

  8. Nollidge says:

    Actually the world isn’t round like a ball.Strictly speaking it’s an OBLATE SPHEROID.
    And I did warn some weeks ago that this stuff was being pushed on the net to help discredit & mock truther sites.
    It’s curvature was estimated by an ancient Greek around 500 to 400 BC.He got to within a small percent of the size we now know.

    • Jennifer says:

      Well, strange that NASA/Apollo should ‘photograph’ the Earth as a perfect sphere then.

      • ian says:

        Was that not the one where the cabin was darkened and the circle was the window. Did you ever see that?

      • Jennifer says:

        Yes, Ian, that’s the one. If as we have been told that due to it’s spinning motion the Earth’s Poles are slightly flattened whilst the equator bulges the aforesaid oblate spheroid – why try to pass off the phony window shot? But maybe NASA and Apollo are another story for another day. But did you see that Edgar Mitchell is saying that it was the ET’s who stopped the Cold War getting Nuclear hot. He’s also very involved with the science of noetics – he seems to be a gatekeeper, making sure he keeps tabs on all that interesting metaphysical stuff that no-one wants us really knowing about.

      • ferryt says:

        Video for the comment thread above. 7 mins. Well worth a watch and analysis.

        https://youtu.be/z2lyHoqIBFc

        Edgar Mitchell’s son at the end. Wan me to call the CIA getem waaaxed?

        wow..

      • ian says:

        I’ll have a look at that video.

      • ferryt says:

        Worth a watch ian.

        Fine day here BTW. No chemtrails.

        Most unimpressed with the recent meteor shower thing. Only one fine night though. Others were thick and smoggy.

        (I’m on the east coast)

      • December 12, 2014 at 7:43 AM

        Jai said…
        Hi Eric,

        With due respect, one question : How am I able to take a west bound flight from India, via Dubai to reach USA, and still continue to take another west-bound flight from USA via Singapore and arrvive back India? Here my journey started from India and ended in India but I was flying west bound during the whole trip.
        December 25, 2014 at 12:03 AM

        Eric Dubay said…
        Hey Jai, One of heliocentrist’s favorite “proofs” of their ball-Earth theory is the ability for ships and planes to circumnavigate, to sail or fly at right angles to the North Pole and eventually return to their original location. Since the North Pole and Antarctica are covered in ice and guarded “no-fly” zones, however, no ships or planes have ever been known to circumnavigate the Earth in North/South directions, only East/West; And herein lies the rub, East or West-bound circumnavigation can just as easily be performed on a flat plane as it can a globular sphere. Just as a compass can place its center-point on a flat piece of paper and trace a circle either way around the “pole,” so can a ship or plane circumnavigate a flat-Earth. The only kind of circumnavigation which could not happen on a flat-Earth is North/South-bound, which is likely the very reason for the heavily-enforced flight restrictions. Flight restrictions originating from none other than the United Nations, the same United Nations which haughtily uses a flat-Earth map as its official logo and flag!

        “Circular sailing no more proves the world to be a globe than an equilateral triangle. The sailing round the world would, of course, take very much longer, but, in principle, it is exactly the same as that of the yachtsman circumnavigating the Isle of Wight. Let me give a simple illustration. A boy wants to sail his iron toy boat by a magnet, so he gets a basin, in the middle of which he places a soap-dish, or anything else which he may think suitable to represent the Earth, and then fills the basin with water to display the sea. He puts in his boat and draws it by the magnet round his little world. But the boat never passes over the rim to sail under the basin, as if that were globular, instead of being simply circular. So is it in this world of ours; from the extreme South we can sail from East to West or from West to East around it, but we cannot sail from North to South or from South to North, for we cannot break through intervening lands, nor pass the impenetrable ramparts of ice and rocks which enclose the great Southern Circumference.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (68)

        “A very good illustration of the circum-navigation of a plane will be seen by taking a round table, and fixing a pin in the centre to represent the magnetic pole. To this central pin attach a string drawn out to any distance towards the edge of the table. This string may represent the meridian of Greenwich, extending due north and south. If now a pencil or other object is placed across, or at right angles to the string, at any distance between the centre and the circumference of the table, it will represent a vessel standing due east and west. Now move the pencil and the string together in either direction, and it will be seen that by keeping the vessel (or pencil), square to the string it must of necessity describe a circle round the magnetic centre and return to the starting point in the opposite direction to that in which it first sailed.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (226)

        Check out this excellent amateur balloon footage of our flat, motionless Earth. This pretty much says it all:

        No Curvature on the Flat Earth
        http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/12/nasa-fail-compilation.html?showComment=1418225732157#c3276872610756055143

      • HE ARGUES HIS POSITION WELL I THINK
        December 12, 2014 at 5:06 AM

        The Veritopian said…
        – “all the stars maintain their positions relative to one another day after day, year after year”

        This disagrees:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_motion

        The pole star does change:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession#Changing_pole_stars

        If you imagine a spinning ball in space, then it doesn’t matter if there are multiple external axes of rotation around which the ball spins, only the ball’s axial spin would affect the view from the surface. A ball can only have one axis of spin, so it will always have 2 poles.

        The ‘star trails’ are ‘horizontal’ to the pole, and circular. I really don’t get what you’re saying in the vid. Isn’t it impossible to tell visually if one or the other is moving? I.e. it would look the same to us either way…?

        They look exactly like what you might expect being on a spinning globe, or with a rotating ‘heavens’ – there’s no way to tell…

        BTW I don’t have ‘faith’ in NASA, but NASA don’t have a monopoly on heliocentrism, or spherical earth theory.

        – “Relativity can only be invoked to explain vertically-fired cannonballs…”

        I’m pretty sure it works in all directions. Imagine playing a game of catch on a moving train. You wouldn’t be able to tell you were moving from the motion of the ball. It’s the same in each direction.

        – ” Then the “stratosphere” would have to be rotating ever faster to keep up because it is that much further away from the center of rotating, right!?”

        No, you’re definitely wrong about this… Think – what is the earth rotating *relative to*…? There’s nothing, just empty space. How can the atmosphere *know* the earth is spinning? It can’t keep an eye on the sun to get some idea of it’s position… To it – earth looks like it’s stationary.

        What could it be dragging against to make it *notice* the earth’s spin? There’s nothing…

        Also, you have to think in terms of *angular* velocity, not linear. The top of the atmosphere is rotating at the same *angular* velocity as everything else.
        December 12, 2014 at 6:36 AM

        Eric Dubay said…
        Hey Johnny, you’re saying the Sun and Moon are “well out of place” and “setting in the wrong position,” I don’t know anything about this, nor have I seen any documentation referring to it. You’ll have to give me something more specific/detailed to comment on.

        Veritopian, your two wikipedia articles haven’t convinced me. The wiki claims Thuban used to be the Pole Star 5000 years ago, and Vega was 14,000 years ago, without a source to boot. These stars are right next to Polaris in the sky anyway, and if there is a slight movement through the 26,000 year procession, that still doesn’t explain how Polaris, Thuban, Vega and all the other stars remain so fixed when the Earth is supposedly annually orbiting 190,000,000 miles around the Sun, annually spiraling 4,380,000,000 miles around the Milky Way, and annually shooting 5,869,200,000,000 through the infinite universe! Could you please explain to me or give me another wikipedia article that says how Polaris and the other stars manage to maintain their relative positions to each other and the Earth if all this motion is happening every year?

        I don’t know how much clearer the star trails video could be. It is not “impossible to tell visually if one or the other is moving,” and would not “look the same either way,” as I showed with the animation, for the circular star-trail effect to be caused by the motion of the Earth, the Earth would have to be doing loop-de-loops! These time-lapse photos would not be possible merely by a ball-Earth rotating on its axis, the stars would be passing by horizontally and your point of view would change before being able to see an entire revolution around Polaris.
        December 12, 2014 at 7:20 AM

        Eric Dubay said…
        As for your moving train example, that was covered in the article, there absolutely would be a difference:

        “When sitting in a rapidly-moving railway carriage, let a spring-gun be fired forward, or in the direction in which the train is moving. Again, let the same gun be fired, but in the opposite direction; and it will be found that the ball or other projectile will always go farther in the first case than in the latter. If a person leaps backwards from a horse in full gallop, he cannot jump so great a distance as he can by jumping forward. Leaping from a moving sledge, coach, or other object, backwards or forwards, the same results are experienced. Many other practical cases could be cited to show that any body projected from another body in motion, does not exhibit the same behaviour as it does when projected from a body at rest. Nor are the results the same when projected in the same direction as that in which the body moves, as when projected in the opposite direction; because, in the former case, the projected body receives its momentum from the projectile force, plus that given to it by the moving body; and in the latter case, this momentum, minus that of the moving body. Hence it would be found that if the earth is moving rapidly from west to east, a cannon fired in a due easterly direction would send a ball to a greater distance than it would if fired in a due westerly direction. But the most experienced artillerymen – many of whom have had great practice, both at home and abroad, in almost every latitude – have declared that no difference whatever is observable. That in charging and pointing their guns, no difference in the working is ever required. Gunners in war ships have noticed a considerable difference in the results of their firing from guns at the bow, when sailing rapidly towards the object fired at, and when firing from guns placed at the stern while sailing away from the object: and in both cases the results are different to those observed when firing from a ship at perfect rest. These details of practical experience are utterly incompatible with the supposition of a revolving earth.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (73)

        And you’re totally missing the point on the various layered heights of atmosphere having to rotate faster due to being further away from the center of rotation. If “gravity” is pulling the atmosphere along for the ride as heliocentrists claim, then every mile further away, the faster the atmosphere would have to be rotating to keep pace with the Earth and lower layers of atmosphere. Not only this, but from the equator where Earth is supposedly spinning 1,038mph down to the poles where it is spinning 0mph, every mile along the way the Earth and atmosphere above it must compensate for this as well! It’s absolutely ludicrous and impossible. I recommend meditating under a tree until people are cured of the delusion they are spinning, revolving, spiraling, wobbling and shooting through space at break-neck speeds. Peace

        http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/12/earth-center-universe.html?showComment=1418330387454#c295710633998969917

      • Tapestry says:

        Read Ralph Ellis’ Thoth masterpiece about the Pyramids. You will not believe in a flat earth once you can understand the earth’s 25,600 year precession. Stonehenge measured every 19 years by moving a marker stone round the outer ring, which had 56 stones. It makes a fascinating read. It and the Pyramids in Egypt (The Great Pyramid) were built about 14,000 years ago.

      • 200 PROOFS THE EARTH IS NOT A SPINNING BALL
        http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

        1) The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

        8) The Suez Canal connecting the Mediterranean with the Red Sea is 100 miles long without any locks making the water an uninterrupted continuation of the two seas. When constructed, the Earth’s supposed curvature was not taken into account, it was dug along a horizontal datum line 26 feet below sea-level, passing through several lakes from one sea to the other, with the datum line and water’s surface running perfectly parallel over the 100 miles.

        15) If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected.

        21) If the Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, helicopters and hot-air balloons should be able to simply hover over the surface of the Earth and wait for their destinations to come to them!

        34) Ship captains in navigating great distances at sea never need to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their calculations. Both Plane Sailing and Great Circle Sailing, the most popular navigation methods, use plane, not spherical trigonometry, making all mathematical calculations on the assumption that the Earth is perfectly flat. If the Earth were in fact a sphere, such an errant assumption would lead to constant glaring inaccuracies. Plane Sailing has worked perfectly fine in both theory and practice for thousands of years, however, and plane trigonometry has time and again proven more accurate than spherical trigonometry in determining distances across the oceans.

        33) If “gravity” is credited with being a force strong enough to curve the massive expanse of oceans around a globular Earth, it would be impossible for fish and other creatures to swim through such forcefully held water.

    • Oblate spheroid. Interesting nollidge
      So its not flat like a plateau? It certainly seems flat all the stuff on eric dubays blog

      90) The Statue of Liberty in New York stands 326 feet above sea level and on a clear day can be seen as far as 60 miles away. If the Earth were a globe, that would put Lady Liberty at an impossible 2,074 feet below the horizon.
      http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

      And if its an oblate spheroid whatever that is. it makes me wonder whats the big deal about it then, why would they choose to lie to us about that? Why so important to pretend it curves after 6 miles?

      Where did you learn about oblate spheroid?
      And whats your thoughts on stationary earth, and geocentrism? If you reply, please use my reply button somewhere, thanks

  9. Nollidge says:

    Just had a look at some of his site.Mix of commonly known things that have been out there for ages & somewhat strange ideas,probably of his own invention.
    I doubt that there’s much original stuff there.Would be interesting to know how Tap came across it & why he thinks there’s anything in it.
    Would also be nice to know who finances the site & why.

  10. Nollidge says:

    In fact,re-reading the article,I find I can pick plenty of holes in it just from what I already know.E.G.
    “Why are there so few direct flights in the Southern Hemisphere? Why do planes flying from places like Sydney (Australia) to Johannesburg (South Africa) routinely go via places like Dubai in the Middle East, which is completely off course and out of the way?”
    Well firstly there probably isn’t much demand for such a direct flight.
    2nd,it would be 7,000 miles over the hostile Southern ocean – NOT a place where you’d want to ditch an airplane in trouble.
    Plenty more holes,but I find I simply cannot be arsed.

  11. charles allan says:

    This is disinfo to discredit truthers and also divert from the geocentric still earth theory which Eistein , Hubble and Hoyle said was possible due to relative motion.
    Study ” Galileo was wrong the church was right ”
    The purpose of this disinfo is to confuse the debate between geocentrism and heliocentrism.- as you can see.

    • ferryt says:

      Agree.

      Still lots of layers and unanswered questions Charles.

      Janner. Will they get away with a video link in a magistrates court?

  12. ferryt says:

    One more I believe a cia psyop..

    LSC – lord Steven Christ.

    Comments from those that are familiar?

  13. BR1 says:

    So many things I don’t know. But a few I do and one of those is precognition — accurate and witnessed. How that fits in I have no clue, but maybe some of you do.

  14. mitch says:

    For in-depth answers to the questions asked in the article and more:
    http://ifers.boards.net/

  15. salty says:

    Flat Earth Psy Op is the Real Conspiracy

    February 3, 2016.

    http://henrymakow.com/2016/02/Flat-Earth-Psyop.html

    The Flat Earth fad is a “conspiracy theory” designed to distract, divide and discredit those who understand modern society has been enslaved by the Judeo Masonic (Satanic) conspiracy.

    It creates cognitive dissonance, and make us question all our assumptions, especially those which are True.

  16. Dublinmick says:

    FLAT EARTH ‘THEORY’: The Ultimate PSYOP Wages War Against The Truth Movement

    Flat Earth Theory Fabricated By TPTB To Distract From Planet X

    If ever there was a PSYOP designed to distract, divert and misdirect, the thoroughly insane Flat Earth Theory (FET) is the one. Never in the history of black operations have the co-conspirators been so fierce and fanatical in their mission to deceive and dupe.

    Just what is that covert mission? To effectively blow up every internet chat room, forum and blog that has many meaningful discussion about Planet X, formerly known as the 10th Planet. Planet X is the real megillah that everyone has been tying to hide for decades. Simply put, its profound ramifications are so far-reaching and highly consequential that TPTB cannot risk the people catching on. Hence, along comes the Flat Earth Theory to change the conversation into absolute and utter gibberish.

    Yes, they have completely left the reservation of rationality and reason. They’re either permanently “Out To Lunch”, forever “AWOL”, and “There’s Nobody Home”. We’re talking the complete absence of even an iota of intellectual integrity. Do you now get the picture? (-: Actually, it ought to be )-:

    FLAT EARTH ‘THEORY’ Demonstrates The Alarming Gullibility Of People Everywhere

    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=29587

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