The Jews are Egyptians in origin, says Ralph Ellis

I’m reading my first history by Ralph Ellis, after seeing him interviewed by Mark Windows a couple of months ago.  That interview alerted my interest, because he’s addressing topics which have long puzzled me and most other people, basically things like who was Jesus?  If Jesus is such a significant figure in world history, what does the historical record give us about who he was and where he came from.  That’s the question which Ralph Ellis asks, and as far as I am concerned, answers  – by working his way through Josephus Flavius’ many deceptions and finding out the true historical context of the events that took place.

I can’t give away the plot! by revealing too many details of what Ellis works out, but Ellis’ notion that the Israelites came out of Egypt because they were in fact Egyptian, is a key fact that his book ‘Cleopatra to Christ’ gets across forcefully.   The Hebrew language descends from Egyptian, and many of Ellis’ explanations use his linguistic knowledge of Egyptian, Greek, Hebrew and Persian to track the family dynasty from which the biblical Jesus is descended.

To get the full picture from the Ralph Ellis viewpoint, I suppose I’ll need to buy more of his books (I have done and wait their delivery), but already I can see that he’s way up there as a classical scholar, making many of Zechariah Sitchin’s notions appear to be erroneous and less than convincing.

To be fair, Sitchin addressed the Old Testament for the most part, and Ellis is tackling the New Testament.  That said they can’t both be right as regards the origins of Israel, for example.  As I progress through the Ellis version of pre-history, and he exposes deliberate deception after deliberate deception, maybe the two histories will merge at some point, although Ellis doesn’t appear to be trying to spin a new web of deception, as many suspect was the case with Sitchin.

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Ellis gives the feeling of someone happily exposing the deceptions which have enslaved the world.  I feel privileged to be able to read an expose of the deceptions that have been used as a major part of the system of human suppression for thousands of years, including throughout my own childhood.  This is an important part of how we must attain a new freedom.  Information well handled, and presented, of things we would never find out otherwise.  Our definition of goodness must be rebuilt without the interference of corrupted institutions that bend facts to suit their agendas.  The Roman Empire’s historians can no longer maintain their hold over us, as we relearn who we really are.

From Ralph Ellis’ website –

The biblical Jesus – discovered in the historical record.
Contemporary coins and statue of Jesus discovered in Syria.

Why is Jesus missing from the historical record? Jesus was an influential king (the King of the Jews) and probably the most famous monarch of the last two millennia, so why cannot we find archaeological evidence for his life? The answer is that we have been looking in the wrong location.

Following 25 years of research, Ralph Ellis has discovered that Jesus was a prince of Edessa in northern Syria. The Edessan monarchs were Nazarene Jews who helped build the Temple of Jerusalem and saved Judaea from starvation during a great famine. But, just like Jesus, they were also religious and political revolutionaries who tried to take control of Judaea, but were thwarted by the Roman Army. Thus there are many links and similarities between the biblical accounts and the princes and kings of Edessa.

However, in addition to this, Ralph Ellis has discovered that one of the princes of Edessa had the same names as Jesus. Jesus was called (King) Jesus Emmanuel, while one of the Edessan monarchs was called King Izas Manu(el). Equally interesting, is the fact that all of the Edessan monarchs wore a plaited Crown of Thorns. The biblical Jesus was crucified wearing this same plaited Crown of Thorns because he was this very same prince and king of Edessa.

Thus we now know who Jesus was, where he lived, and who his family were. Visit his city, see the ruins of his citadel, gaze upon his statue, handle his coins. In reality, Jesus was a son of King Abgarus au Kama of Edessa, a minor princeling with a small realm, a large treasury, and even bigger ambitions. But the so-called Wise Prince of northern Syria came up against an intractable Rome, and his many plans crumbled to dust. The historical records then indicate that this revolutionary prince of Edessa was crucified outside Jerusalem, along with two other leaders of the revolt, but he was reprieved and taken down from the cross by a man called Joseph(us). And yes, this familiar-sounding account is from the historical record, and not from the gospels.

Readers might imagine that the true history of this region might undermine much of the biblical story that the gospel authors have crafted. But in reality the gospels always did say that Jesus was a Nazarene (Mat 2:23) and a king (Luk 23:38), and so this new analysis changes very little in the gospel story. The only real difference is that the true history of the region indicates that the strategies and goals of King Izas (King Jesus) were much more far-reaching than the gospel accounts like to admit. In reality, the goal of King Izas and the Edessan monarchy was to use their newly united Kingdom of Judaeo-Syria as a springboard to take over the throne of Rome. Yes, King Izas (King Jesus) wanted to become Emperor of Rome – which is why he was so closely linked to the Roman ‘Star Prophesy’ (the eastern star at his birth), and why he suffered a Roman rather than a Jewish form of punishment.

This is a scholarly study of all the available historical evidence, including the Tanakh, Talmud, Josephus Flavius, the Roman historians, and venerable Syriac historians like Moses of Chorene and Yohannes Drasxanakertci.

We suggest that readers start with ‘Cleopatra to Christ’ and then ‘King Jesus’. The wait before arriving at the last episode in the trilogy will be worthwhile, for if a book could be valued on its ‘eureka moments’ then this final book would be priceless. v3.5

TAP – That said, the Cleopatra to Christ book comes to very different conclusions in 2006, to the book Jesus Of Edessa, written a few years later.  The working through wrong theories led Ralph Ellis onto the right story.  Fascinating stuff.

 

 

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20 Responses to “The Jews are Egyptians in origin, says Ralph Ellis”

  1. Paul says:

    The original Hebrews probably were… but the current Jews are 90% Ashkenazi thieves, murderers and con artists

  2. Odin's Raven says:

    Here’s a debunking of the Jesus of Edessa story by a historian of the era:
    Thomas Verenna
    Caveat lector.

  3. Mark says:

    Not having time to personally comment, a cursory search led me to add this to the ding-dong: http://endthelie.com/2013/10/12/joseph-atwills-caesars-messiah-debunked/. It allows opposing voices to counter each other. I’ve heard Ralph etc but I’d like to listen carefully before chucking in m’ten bobs worth, Mark.

  4. C says:

    Sad, isn’t it. The Judeo Christian Islam tradition is hated although most of its people want pece and reconciliation. Only the money lenders and power brokers want dominance and war.

  5. C says:

    Peace and reconciliation. Sorry for the mis-spelling.

  6. RabbiT says:

    I don’t know how many members of God’s family may be following this blog but it never ceases to amaze me how many people crave to deny the deity of Christ.

    Brought up in the Christian faith I always had a respect for the Bible and a belief in Jesus, however it was not until I visited my best friend one evening to find him blown away, unable to talk, that I was able to truly discover Christ for myself.

    About a half hour after my arrival my friend came down from his high and explained how he had invited Jesus into his life shortly before I arrived.

    That night I followed his advice and prayed. I simply said “Right Jesus, if you are who you say you are, then I want you to come into my life.”

    Thirty five or so years later I can say I know Jesus, I know the Father, I know the Holy Spirit, I have been engaged in miracles including healing incurable diseases, prophesying the future and have seen the Bible, especially the New Testament as the living truth of God.

    I do however stay away from organised religion (church) as much as I can for it has become poisoned by liberal theology just to name one of the errors.

    The powers that be are scum and they use all means of deceit to enslave us, I agree but God took me out the 9-5 so I decide what I do each day, not man.

    There is a text which shows that Jesus was making his persecutors His footstool and He does the same with me. Those who persecute me are making themselves my slaves…as time will show.

    There is an easy way to test this – challenge Jesus for yourself instead of listening to the strong delusion.

    • Paul says:

      You can be a follower of the Way of Jesus… and not be interested in the corruption that the Church has become. All 3 of the so called Abrahamic religions and institutionally corrupt and do not follow Jesus in any real way shape or form. The Bible appears to have been rewritten to suit the rulers of the day, books omitted and ignored or changed as required. Thats what I see anyway, took some time to arrive at the conclusion that Church had nothing at all to do with Jesus, the Rabbinical Talmund had Jesus cooking in a vat of excrement in hell, probably because he had told them that they weren’t the chosen of god anymore because they had repeatedly broken Gods laws and turned their backs on him more than enough times, so they trumped up some charges and got the romans to kill him for them. Then the Muslims had relegated his teachings, as it didn’t match with their prophets murdering and child raping ways. This is a really brief synopsis of what I found, to type it all out would take to much time. I suggest people really go and do some research on it all and how we have been lied to for centuries, but then again most people who come here know this already, and those that don’t come here because they work for the ones who are running the current system anyway.

    • Adam Spiritualwarrior Exposing the Secret Space Programme says:

      Interesting comment. I have just done that now, put my hands together and genuinely asked, Jesus, if you are who you say you are, I want you to come into my life

      However I don’t think that ralph Elliss interesting findings about Josephus Flavius lies, means one is denying the deity of Christ. Flavius must have been the Alsitair Campbell of his day, spin doctor on the side of evil. As well. Im open to the fact maybe Raplh Ellis could be a cabal troll. What do I know?
      Truth will come I hope

  7. paul.leake-norfolk says:

    it would not surprise me one bit if the jews were really egyptian ha ha
    but see this its dynamite http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/zionists-say-no-to-wwii-reparations-for.html

  8. Lu says:

    How could the Hebrews ever have descended from Mizraim (Also called Osyris, and Zeus by the Greeks! Egyptians still call their land ‘Misr’ today!) son of Cham (Geb or Kheb & Cronus by the Greeks), while Heber was son of Sala, son of Arphaxad, son of Shem! They are cousins far far removed, true, but Hebrews are closer to Arabs than original Egyptians, as Peleg and Joktan were brothers & sons of Heber. Hebrews are actually descendants rather even of Peleg, father & namesake of the sea-faring Pelasgians who built many megaliths all over the world! And Joktan is another father of the Arabs! If you don’t believe it, check it out for yourself in: “Who Was Old Seafarer Cham Khem Cronus & Son Mizraim Menes Osiris Zeus!” http://powerpointparadise.com/blog/2014/09/old-rascal-cham/ It is true that the sons of Joseph were half Egyptians, and Abraham’s by-wife Hagar –mother of Ishmael– was Egyptian also, therefore Arab Ishmaelites were half Egyptian long long ago! Anyhow we all are pretty mixed up these days! 🙂 Thanks to Cultural Marxism’s immigration policies!
    Happy New Year Tap!
    Lu

  9. sovereigntea says:

    CIA Torture Report Incriminates Dick Cheney
    Column: Politics
    Region: USA in the World

    69646193Information received this week from the highest levels of US counter-terrorism sources have confirmed that the reputed “Queen of Al Qaeda,” Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, a CIA torture victim now serving 87 years in an American “super-max” prison, was a CIA agent when captured and was imprisoned to prevent releasing information that could eventually lead to the arrest and conviction of then Vice President Dick Cheney.

    Siddiqui worked directly for Valerie Plame, a CIA agent purposefully “outed” when her husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, disproved White House claims of “yellowcake uranium” smuggling by Iraq.

    White House Security Chief, Scooter “Libby” Leibowitz was convicted of the Plame leak, although sources now confirm that the “outing” of Plame was done at the orders of Cheney and was passed on to the media by retired General Paul Vallely, a Fox News employee who has recently been filmed meeting with leaders of the ISIS/Al Qaeda terror group in Turkey and reputedly Syria as well.

    When Plame was “burned,” her assistant, Dr. Aafia, was then listed as part of the now debunked yellowcake “network” and fled to Pakistan, where she was kidnapped and taken to Bagram Air Force Base, as outlined in CIA torture records.

    UK TELEGRAPH GETS IT VERY WRONG

    This week, the UK Telegraph published a lengthy article describing “convicted terrorist” Dr. Aafia Siddiqui’s process of radicalization and, quite frankly, defending her rendition kidnapping, her 5 years of rape and torture, and the murder of her children by CIA paid contractors.

    If only this were the whole story, a cover up of torture as part of a war on terror. It is not. The Telegraph has a long reputation of being a cover story “drop box” for MI-6, so the story was passed around quickly among those who take a special interest in such things.

    This week a source within the Able Danger investigation, working directly with the Department of Defense and IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) and part of the original team that brought down rogue FBI agent Robert Hansen as well, tells of a different story regarding Dr. Aafia Siddiqui.

    She was a CIA agent targeted by the Bush administration because her operational unit, headed by Valerie Plame, one involved in NNP (nuclear non-proliferation) was ready to order the arrest of Vice President Dick Cheney and top officials of the US Department of Energy, the organization that, with the Department of Defense, maintains America’s nuclear weapons inventories.

    Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger of the Reagan era, was arrested at his home one morning by a similar operational unit for crimes committed in the Iran-Contra Affair and was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice.

    After the 2000 US presidential election where George Bush (43) won by a nose, compliments of a Supreme Court ruling, loyal elements in defense and security became convinced the election began a coup, as some of the principals being investigated for their involvement in illegally acquiring and distributing stolen US nuclear weapon pits were placed in top positions to block any attempts of their being exposed by the ongoing investigations.

    BACKGROUND

    After 9/11, the US set out to create what appeared to be a worldwide terror organization, in order to justify both a political crackdown within the US and, as had been made public on many occasions by former NATO head General Wesley Clark… the long planned military takeover of the Middle East and Central Asia.

    Part of this plot involved creating a cover story involving 500 tons of “yellowcake uranium”, supposedly bought by Al Qaeda and transported to Iraq to supply a nuclear program later found to never have existed. The Bush White House, at the orders of Vice President Dick Cheney, went to a terrorist group within the Italian intelligence agency, SISMI, part of the group responsible for the Gladio terror bombings and the kidnapping and murder of Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro.

    They created documents outlining imaginary transactions and sent them to CIA headquarters in Rome. SISMI chief Nicolo Pollari took the reports directly to the White House, where Cheney asked friends within the CIA and Department of Energy — part of a covert working team that included arms smuggler Victor Bout — to prepare reports citing the severity of the threat posed by these known forged reports.

    DEEP BACKGROUND

    A US Army intelligence group working within Israel, headed by Colonel James Hanke, had discovered that the nuclear weapons facility at Dimona had suffered a catastrophic accident between 1988 and 1990. Israel’s nuclear weapons inventory could no longer be maintained and expanded from domestically-produced weapons grade nuclear material.

    Israel’s complicity was proven when, according to sources within the IAEA and Able Danger team, a combined operation between the US Department of Defense and Department of Justice, initially headed by FBI Agent John O’Neill, had discovered discrepancies in the US nuclear weapons inventory.

    It was not just 350 missing nuclear pits, but fully one third of America’s post SALT II (Strategic Arms Limitations Talks) inventory. The records of our nuclear weapons inventory had been systematically sabotaged to hide this attack on America’s weapons inventory, or so they thought.

    Able Danger established the presence of an espionage organization answerable personally to Benjamin Netanyahu. The organization included the then head of the Dept. of Energy, the AIPAC Lobby, the Anti-Defamation League, key commanders of America’s nuclear forces, the Joint Special Operations command under VP Dick Cheney, and members of the International Atomic Energy Agency, a UN organization.

    Their investigation had tied corrupt officials at the highest levels of the US Department of Energy to the leak of classified nuclear “pit” configuration data and altering records of decommissioned nuclear weapons. Three hundred fifty W54 nuclear warheads were missing from inventories at the Pantex nuclear facility in Amarillo, Texas.

    An investigation team led by Roland Carnaby, the CIA agent killed in a mysterious shooting in 2005, discovered that the missing “pits” had been stolen and taken to a nearby meat packing facility, where they were sorted using leaked DOE data in order to allow them to be safely melted down and reconfigured to replace the depleted Israeli stockpile.

    Investigators from the DOE and IAEA confirm that weapons from this stolen stockpile were used in the demolition of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001 — nuclear “pits” originally produced at the Hanford DOE facility in Washington. This information was part of the highly classified 2003 9/11 report given to congressional and White House leaders only, and later leaked by Russian Naval Intelligence, believed to have been among a trove of documents received from Edward Snowden.

    In March 2013, a group of business executives meeting in Tulsa, Oklahoma, received a briefing on the 2003 “Nuclear 9/11” report as part of a “Threat Assessment Conference” where Veterans Today staff were among the presenters. The briefing also included a version of the now famous “Shrimpton nuclear scare” story, confirming the recovery of a missing nuclear weapon somewhere in the EU in 2012.

    9/11 AND AFTERMATH

    9997776Leaked documents on the Able Danger investigation, received in September 2014 revealed that most investigation functions had ended in 1998 at the request of President Clinton, then under impeachment threat tied to his relationship with Monica Lewinsky, in a reputed Mossad “honey trap.”

    Investigative chief and FBI Special Agent John O’Neill left government service and pursued leads until his untimely death during the 9/11 “event”. According to a 2005 report, thirty-five of the Able Danger investigators were also killed on 9/11, when the Pentagon office they were called to for an emergency briefing by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Myer, (who did not show up for the meeting and did not die, a lucky day for him) was demolished by an airliner, though little or no physical evidence of such a happenstance exists.

    After 1998, the FBI investigation team was divided into two units under the supervision of Special Agent Mike Dick; one team was tracking arms dealer Victor Bout, and was coordinated with IAEA investigators. The second unit investigated the theft of the “pit matching” documents and centered on the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, AIPAC, eventually leading to the arrest of leaders of that group.

    Charges were later dropped when the White House refused to turn over required evidence, and Attorney General John Ashcroft, one of the key planners of the CIA torture program, ordered an end to the investigation. Witness statements included testimony indicating White House officials had passed key nuclear secrets to Israeli embassy representatives at a Washington cocktail party in the presence of both Paul Wolfowitz and Condoleezza Rice.

    The second unit, assisted by CIA agent Roland Carnaby, followed the theft of nuclear weapons from the sorting facility near Amarillo to a fertilizer plant outside Waco, Texas. In April 2014, as Snowden reputedly handed Able Danger documents to Russian intelligence, the plant where the nuclear weapons were stored, the West Fertilizer Plant, was destroyed in a massive explosion, killing 15.

    The entire operation was run by Victor Bout, working directly for the office of the Vice President of the United States, according to private sources with access to the Plame/Siddiqui investigation.

    The nuclear pits had been moved by truck to the Port of Houston, where they had been placed on ships and transferred to the Canary Islands and later to Mauritania. The weapons were, according to Able Danger documents, stored at a mine controlled by former South African Prime Minister De Klerk inside a region controlled by the rebel Polisario Front. From there, weapons were sold to Taiwan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia and other nations, along with restocking Israel.

    Other weapons were set aside for use by intelligence agencies. IAEA sources report weapons from Hanford/Pantex were used for the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, at the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996, the destruction of the World Trade Center in 2001, and the Bali bombing in 2005. The IAEA confirms up to 50 nuclear weapons have been used surreptitiously since 1945, often in configurations that minimize blast and radiation.

    THE CIA’S FORGOTTEN CHILDREN

    There are strange parallels in the story of two accused “Al Qaeda” operatives. While the general public thinks of Al Qaeda as a terror group, in truth, according to Able Danger documents, Al Qaeda is a joint operational sector of Saudi, Israeli and US intelligence. This dirty little secret has compromised American security greatly, due to the blackmailing position both of these countries have had over the US.

    Two of the major “terror figures” of Al Qaeda, Dr. Aafia Siddiqui and Osama bin Laden, have been confirmed, at the highest levels, to be CIA operatives. After 9/11 both fled… Dr. Aafia to Karachi and bin Laden, who had recently received kidney treatments at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, where members of congress and top VIPs receive their care, to Tora Bora.

    Bin Laden died of complications from advanced kidney disease on December 13, 2001, after denying any involvement in 9/11 and advising those concerned to “look closer to home” (CIA FOIA Press Release dated 24 September, 2001.)

    The curious story of Bin Laden and his second “death” in Pakistan is similar to that of Aafia Siddiqui with her reputed murderous attack on her CIA captors during a waterboarding session at Bagram Air Force Base.

    Prior to the release of the recent and highly controversial CIA torture report, the reputed actual “re-killer” of bin Laden came forward. The story, as we are told, has an aging bin Laden in the upper floor of a home in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Bin Laden is said to have leapt to his feet, grasping an AK47 in one hand while holding a hostage in another. While standing on a bed, bin Laden is brought down in a hail of gunfire, like something out of a cowboy film.

    The Aafia story is if anything worse.

    We are told Dr. Aafia, confined to a wheelchair, in this case “literally” held down by handcuff “tie raps”, was brought in for a waterboarding session. The US Air Force facility had been hosting summary execution and torture sessions for Aafia and other prisoners for years. Aafia had been raped repeatedly. She was down to 80 pounds and unable to walk.

    There the story, an analog of the bin Laden tale, gets more bizarre. Dr. Aafia is said to have broken her tie wraps, listed as “ISO 527-1:2012 standard,” in a fit of rage. There were five men in the room, most over 200 pounds, four of whom were “special operations trained”, including one US Navy Seal, one CIA agent and two FBI agents. The fifth member was a “translator,” please pay attention as this will be an important point.

    The crippled 80-pound torture and rape victim is reputed to have knocked all four men to the ground, seizing an M4 carbine from one of them. According to transcripts, in order to save the lives of the four “terror war-fighters”, the “translator”, using his weapon shot Dr. Aafia in the abdomen.

    This is the crime Dr. Aafia was convicted of, not terrorism but resisting torture. Now here comes the most curious part of all. Dr. Aafia lived in the United States for 11 years, the wife of a Boston anesthesiologist. Aafia taught at MIT, where she received her doctorate in microbiology before joining the CIA.

    Aafia had spoken English all her life, published in English and taught in English at one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Why did she need a translator? You just can’t make this stuff up… or can you?

    Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War that has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades and consulted with governments challenged by security issues. He’s a senior editor and chairman of the board of Veterans Today, especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”
    First appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/01/04/cia-torture-report-incriminates-dick-cheney/

  10. paul.leake-norfolk says:

    this woman is spending 87 years in prison not for committing any crimes but for what she knows peacethrujustice@aol.com

  11. Gordon says:

    Re: RabbiT & Paul.

    From early childhood I was brought up in Catholicism but I know now that the Spirit of God was always upon me questioning all, and so it was when confronting priests with what was deemed by them as uncomfortable questions that I never got answers and always scolded for asking such.

    By the time I was fourteen I came to the conclusion that Catholicism was not for me and that the Holy Spirit was bringing me to a higher spiritual plane. I now know that that was going to take time, years in fact, a lot of instruction from the Spirit and lots of abuse and beatings from family and friends.

    In my mid twenties the Holy Spirit weighed heavy on me and was showing me enlightenment which practically drove me insane, it was time to throw out the chaff I had been indoctrinated with and follow what I then believed to be the way.

    One day, cat-napping on my lounge chair I heard a voice say to me, “Wakeup”. I immediately awakened and looked around but there was no one there. I sat for a good while considering this voice and to this day I still can’t describe how it sounded. It certainly wasn’t my voice, or my minds voice, nor was it like any other voice or sound I had ever heard in my entire life up to that point. The very best description of it is that it was quiet, gentle but authoritative and affirmative which had a singular tone connecting the two words. Very strange indeed!

    I often reminisce that voice and think that if it had said “die” I would simply have died, such was its authoritative tone which in itself is hard to explain. If I had to describe this voice in one word then it most assuredly would have to be “Ineffable,” and now believe it to have been that of the Holy Spirit whom spiritually was telling my spirit to awaken from slumber.

    From that day on my life was never quite the same. I seemed to have a whole new perspective on God, His government, the spirit realm, angelic beings, (hierarchy and lowerarchy) Emanuel, Jesus Christ, Lucifer, Satan, demons, aliens, the universe, the Earth, nature, mankind, races, man’s religions and the list goes on. Most of what I had been taught came under review with the old thorn out and and replaced with a whole new way of thinking with re-education from the beginning. Many years have now passed and my belief in God and His son Christ is affirmed.

    Re: RabbiT. How correct you are in stating that so many deny the Godhead of Christ. Scripture tells us in Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    So called Christians, Jews, Muslims and sects ought to consider this carefully.

    “Those who persecute me are making themselves my slaves…as time will show.”

    “Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” (Psa. 2:1-8)

    Just as today as was back in the days of first century true Christianity infiltrators entered the Church of God and by deceit rose to positions of authority to deceive the faithful and destroy the church from within. Act_20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

    Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

    Mat_10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

    Luk_10:3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

    Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    All of this of course requires faith. But what is faith?

    True Christianity involves faith yet true Christian faith is a much understood subject. Many profess faith, but in reality faith is rare commodity. For proof, just look at the startling epidemic of anxiety, fear, worry and even religious disbelief that plagues almost everyone at some time in his or her life!

    No wonder when Jesus Christ asked, “When the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8).

    Jesus was looking into the future when He asked this question. Indeed, He was looking at our present generation. What He clearly foresaw at the time of His second appearance was the almost total absence of faith.

    Take comfort in knowing that you are not alone. The Spirit of truth has descended from the Throne of heaven as is evident throughout the whole world in many whom formally were deceived which have and are being freed by the truth.

    Above all. Have faith and what we do with what God has given us, how we respond to God’s call and His will, whether we worship Him in spirit and truth (John 4:23), in obedience and faith, time will prove our track record and show whether we are, or are not, God’s people.

    If we have committed our lives to Him, He is working with us, perfecting our character, teaching us lessons we need to learn. The Master Potter is at work, let Him work. This is a job He is not going to rush. It is not going to be slipshod and poorly done. It takes time. It takes faith, but God is going to produce a masterpiece. “Have faith in the Lord your God and you will be established; have faith in His prophets and you will succeed” (II Chronicles 20:20).

    Just you wait and see!

    • Tapestry says:

      Exorcism is real, says Mark Windows. Most of us have strongly spiritual experiences and many things happen that we can’t explain whether voices or other events. Spiritual forces are clearly real. Good and evil. Who doubts that they exist? Prayer works. It’s just the name that we attach to all of these that’s in dispute to some extent. The spiritual, unseen and inexplicable has been seized and manipulated by people who have an agenda. Can we remove the agenda and discover good and separate it from evil better without institutional religion holding us back? I think so. Spiritual forces don’t need a name. They already have two in Good and Evil. That’s enough to work with.

      • Adam Spiritualwarrior Exposing the Secret Space Programme says:

        Very good comment Tap I like it. I think this is getting there
        I like Gordons comment above too. I feel the holy spirit has also always been with me too, and iove clashed a lot with the system in various ways. Not least the medical system leaving med school after 4 years. Other things too. Exorcism does seem real Spitirual Forces are real. We have to interpret the world around us in terms of higher spiritual forces. The spanner in the works is the great article you posted above, Ralph Ellis and Flavius lies lies lies. But organised religion can be disconnected and thrown in the bin and we can still believe in Christ and the Holy Spirit and God/Source

  12. Bob says:

    As Plato said a long time ago. Religion is a noble lie, a myth, knowingly told by an elite to maintain social harmony and advance their agenda.

  13. Mark says:

    Confession: I haven’t listened to Mark and Ralph but must. I wouldn’t want to overly criticise a crit-er. Ain’t up for that, as far as possible – the God of the Bible instructs us – Bless Ralph. WE should revel in the challenge. The not-widely accepted compelling bombshell that Jesus is the last great Illuminati Globalist conspiracy deserves attention. I’d like the above debate to look at this.

    Even if Ralph’s ascertains are correct those… beautiful-wise and inspiring words. Either John’s Gospel is reporting someone divine or the writer is.

    From 25 thousand to 20 million in 200 years (100-325). Counter-empire-cultural dominance, often illegal, no obvious material benefit being in it. Quite the opposite. And stories of people choosing death.

    Many Christians base life on the recorded sayings and actions in the four gospels. Why not find our definition of goodness in the reported teaching and actions of this gospel harmony. Jesus in the Psalms to Genesis and back.

    Self-seeking and corruption, the global church all over – yes.
    Jesus plus. Never the simplicity…

    ‘Our definition of goodness must be rebuilt without the interference of corrupted institutions that bend facts to suit their agendas’ – strikes.

    It would appear that the difficulty is in understanding the concept of goodness. Goodness is not abstract. We get our concept of goodness from people. It then boils down to which person you chose to use as a role model. We often ‘pick & mix’ from a number of admirable people.

    We know that there is goodness in us, yet none are truly good – even ‘good people’ are not flawless. Is it someone’s heart that we see and understand to be good. Is it some echo, some remnant or evidence of God in us that points to the good? Does the good in us identify with the good in others?

    When it comes to role models, most people would agree that Jesus has to be up there with the top people we look to. If we can strip away all the churchy ‘additions’ and just hang on to what the man said and did, I think he bears comparison with anyone else, unless you are opposed to the ‘normal’ concepts of ‘good’ in general.

    There are some who say that the Jesus of the gospels is a concoction and therefore has no significance as either a role model or an historical character. But as Napoleon is said to have commented, if John was making it up, he himself must have been ‘divine’ to come up with such a character.

    It is perfectly possible to take Jesus on board as a role model and an inspiration without buying into all the church tradition etc that surrounds his teaching. Possible but rare. I don’t think we need to go looking for a new ‘righteousness’ – even if one could be found, it would inevitably be a concoction of other versions.

    We are right to distrust manipulative tendencies in (…in ourselves) and all ‘authority’ figures, including ‘Christian’ ones, but…

    if you’re looking for goodness and a model of goodness, look no further. If you don’t want Jesus, chose someone else. But let’s leave each other space to make our own decisions on this. It’s very personal.

    Thanks for reading

    Mark Flora Steve

  14. Mark says:

    Ellis (not-online) ‘the’ book. Still must. Picking up and not so-reading books has been a far-too-long habit. One I’m pouring through though, from the start – and dipping ahead – ‘Pagan and Christians’ – Robin Lane Fox. Happ’d on pgs. 376-7, speaks about roots culture of those first three hundred years. That hot bed of made-up or made-man. Here Robin writes and strikes me – if correct – the moment the G/god/s claimed to become natural. Nature. The transfiguration.

    ‘No pagan had been granted such an experience, seeing a change from the human to the supernatural and back to human’ (Robin)

    ‘There are some standing here…’ (Jesus)

    Resembling the Greeks’, reflected in some of the ‘language and details’ of the Greek translation of the NT ‘do not blur the essential differences’. Greek yet, ‘it is to the Jewish tradition and its historical depth that the Gospels’ “epiphanies” looked.’

    ‘When the voice had spoken, they found that Jesus was alone.’

    Mark

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