COUNCIL TAX: What happens when you don’t pay – Mark Windows

Having written much about council tax and had much experience of the lies and deception used by Local Authorities here is some useful information on the subject and their court procedure.

 Am I liable to pay Council Tax?

Liability to pay Council Tax actually comes from The Poor Laws and not The 1992 Local Government Finance Act (which is what all those administering Council Tax will tell you.)

Being a Registered Person on a Roll means there is a Liability to pay through the Registration of a Person by a Parish. The Poor Laws of Britain meant Councils owed you a “duty of care” as you are their Registered property through The Crown ( Pauper). In return you are liable to pay any taxes and have been given certain obligations.

The Poor Laws meant that if you were vagrant, delinquent or unemployed you coud be put in front of The Magistrate and dealt with accordingly. This was the slave bond which put people in The Poor House where you would wear the P for Pauper which has now been transferred to your passport (Check passport type and it will state P in black capitals which means not only are you a Pauper but recognized as being Dead or Lost at Sea) As you agreed to the terms and conditions of the passport you have fully accepted them.

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What happens when you dont pay?

Well, they do have choices. You can be imprisoned if you agree to it, yes you have to be very negligent with your property (person) for that to happen but some people eventually let the Courts do this, you do not have to!

The process is administrative and in order to save money it is not a real court matter unless they decide to go for bankruptcy or apply for a charge against your property. (I went through the whole process and it is a complete scam with the Royal Courts Of Justice complicit.) These bankruptcy petitions can be thwarted but as we know, if you let them do it they will! Its only commerce after all.

They can issue a summons which they print. Yes the Council print the summons. This means it has no authority and Council Tax hearings are just that, they are not a Court matter. This means their costs for Court and issuing their “summons” can easily be quashed.

If you pay something on your council tax before their administrative hearing you can have the whole process put back to square one as they cannot pursue you for the debt if you have offered remedy.

As you can automatically pay money into your council tax account they will ALWAYS accept your remedy whether they like it or not! Most of the time the council will get most things wrong in court.

The Council hires a room in a building known as a court. If you call the court they will know nothing about the matter and refer you back to the council.

The council are often in error so the fact that it is not a real court is a good excuse for their lies and maladministration to go unpunished.

They will then print their own “ Notice of liability”, this is not a writ or order and has no standing. If you ask for a true copy of a court liability order for Council Tax you are in for some ridiculous excuses and an indefinite silence.

When you challenge the council and counterclaim against them as I did the bulk hearing number on their “summons” becomes a REAL court case number.

In the world of administrative corner cutting and usurping the Rule of Law they have to try to at least make it look authentic.

When they hand the matter over to their “bailiffs” or debt collectors to be more precise we now know that in council tax cases they cannot be working for the Court. These bailiffs also make up their own fees. They also state that they are acting on a court liability order…well they are not, they are just acting.

I have had a lot of fun with so called bailiff companies, you can too.

There will be more info on Council Pantomime Courts coming soon.

Here is a bit of fun from a few years ago. It features a Council Tax hearing where it was asked if the matter be heard in a real court. The initial approach was “Iam am not the legal fiction”, the birth certificate was placed in the dock. All good fun but of no relevance in the pantomime kangeroo  council court.

The pantomime continued as the Clerk and Magistrates struggled to follow procedure. The police are called by both the public gallery and Magistrates. The panto villains were revealed later as the so called “liability order” (A signature for all of the so called cases signed for by a magistrate) was issued before the so called hearing. It is good drama with villains,  heroes , good and bad policemen, magistrates and clerk playing their roles with Dickensian Zeal.

 

 

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6 Responses to “COUNCIL TAX: What happens when you don’t pay – Mark Windows”

  1. Jason H. Smith says:

    This is nothing less than a revolution, that is being waged and staged against the imposition of maritime law, upon common law jurisdiction. This theatrical fiction is being torn up by all who believe in common justice, common sense and common decency!

  2. J.Johnson says:

    I saw this video 5 or 6 years ago. As I am disabled I noticed that our council gave 25% discount for living alone and 25% discount for being disabled. I was only given 25% for living alone. So I opted for court.
    When I got there with two mates I thought I would be a nuisance and would not give them my full name only my first name as a ‘freeman of the land’. The receptionist tried a couple of times but I kept it up so eventually she called the councils solicitor over. She said to him “this is one of yours”?. To which he said “Hi Im Micheal of the family Wilson” so I responded just the same.
    He carried on to explain we are going into court and you will have to give your name. I said we are going into court to challenge trhe authrity of the Judge and the court. To which he fell silent for a while. Then said “can you go to the canteen for a while and I will come and see you’ to which I agreed and off we went.
    An hour later he turned up with paperwork and said “Your disabled so you dont have to pay council tax and I am signing this off”. He filled in the paper and signed it and off we went.
    I haven’t paid council tax now for 5 years they’ve left me alone, but how can a solicitor sign anybody off I would have thought it should be somebody in the council???
    John

    • avonpccwatch says:

      The Disability reduction is usually down one band,coupled with the 25% single person reduction this could mean you had an overpayment over years.If the Solicitor was ,as usual,a direct Council employee he would be at a Senior level of Council Officers and perhaps, did not want to waste resources chasing a relatively small amount of money when he could gain orders uncontested. You obviously came across a very charitable/busy/weary Solicitor because I have never in all my time seen a FMOTL case won in truth.

  3. john says:

    we need step by step instructions for this kind of thing for the (ignorant public including myself) we would easily slip up as we don know where to start with this

  4. hannah says:

    Getoutofdebtfree.org provides practical information on how to legally deal with these kind of problems.
    If it doesn’t come up in a search change your search engine!

  5. Phil says:

    On your passport in the information is the word “Type”.
    I believe this means Type of Person as in legal person not passport type.

    One dictionary definition of Type is:
    a particular kind of person

    So i wonder how many different Type of persons the passport office recognises?
    I certainly didn’t ask when i originally applied for a passport.
    I just used my (their) birth certificate as evidence of my person. oops

    Maybe they recognise a Natural Person or a Private Person after all.

    I have been living and operating all my life in their system of commerce/statutory law using my (their) legal person (ie. birth certificate NAME).
    Maybe i simply need to correctly identify my self as a Natural Person operating in a Private Capacity within a Common Law jurisdiction.

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