The Stopping Of Free Speech

TAP – I haven’t heard of this crowd before.

This might be the last email about the gagging law for a while! After last week’s hurried message about the result of the final vote, I wanted to wrap up with a quick summary of what it means and what happens next.

Here’s the quick summary: 

The gagging law kicks in from September 2014. At that point 38 Degrees will face big new restrictions on how we campaign. These will be lifted in May 2015, but then return a year before the next election.


That means we now have seven months to work out what to do when the gagging period starts. Every 38 Degrees member will get a say. We’ll also need to take advice from lawyers and other experts.


In the meantime, we can continue to campaign together as usual.


If you have thoughts on how the campaign went, and what 38 Degrees should do next, click here to complete this short survey: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/whats-next-poll-2014
I hope that in the next seven months, before the gagging law starts, we can achieve more together than we ever have before. The gagging law campaign showed just how determined 38 Degrees members are to stand up for principles like democracy and fairness.

One of the most exciting things about the campaign was how much happened “offline”, in local communities across the UK. Thousands of 38 Degrees members got involved in public meetings, petition hand-ins with MPs, and local protests. I hope we can do a lot more of that.

It was also exciting to work with so many hundreds of charities, campaigners and community groups. Let’s make sure we keep these new friends. We’re all stronger when we stick together to stand up for democracy.

Suggestions have been flooding in for how 38 Degrees – and other campaign groups – can cope with the gagging law. Some are suggesting ways of getting around the law. Others are saying that campaign groups should simply refuse to obey it. 

TAP – why obey such a law?  It’s made to stop us from talking to each other.  It can’t stop the flow of information that’s running.  The Common Law is the only law that should be respected and obeyed.  The rest is corporation law designed for institutions to crush people into the ground.  The law needs redefining so that people come first, and corporations second.  The law can only be applied with the consent of the ruled.  Withdraw consent.

Others are proposing ways of keeping campaigns going despite new restrictions.

One of the successes of the campaign was to get a delay in when the gagging law starts. We now have until September to look into all our options and decide together what we do. We will need to get expert advice. But the final decision will be up to all 38 Degrees members.

Please share your views on what we should do next by filling out this survey: 

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/whats-next-poll-2014


Please add your thoughts here: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/whats-next-poll-2014

The office team has felt a bit down in the dumps this past week. It’s really hard when a big campaign is lost, especially one as important as this. But everyone is now refocusing on the future, and we’re determined to keep going. The messages of support from 38 Degrees members have really helped. We all feel very lucky to be working for such a large and principled group of people.

TAP – The House of Lords is the great fixing device for the corporate corruption system.  It is hereby cancelled.

With huge thanks,

David and the rest of the 38 Degrees team

PS: Another way that 38 Degrees members have been showing their determination to keep standing up for what we believe in has been to start supporting 38 Degrees with a monthly donation. That really helps 38 Degrees maintain its independence and plan for the future. If you could afford to chip in monthly, you can set up a direct debit in a few minutes by clicking here: https://directdebit.38degrees.org.uk

PPS: To see all the amazing work we did together during the gagging law campaign, check out this infographic: 

http://blog.38degrees.org.uk/2014/02/06/the-gagging-law-what-we-did-together/ 

COMMENT –

Hello Tap,

Thank you for sharing the information from 38 degrees.  As you say you have not come across them before, I will confirm that they are legitimate and well-run.

I came across them because our local MP for Stroud is an a marginal constituency, and therefore was a good MP to try to convince to vote against this bill ( after he voted for it the first time ).  We had a meeting which was extremely well-attended by the local people representing many charities, and the general public, all feeling very strongly, and all very well-informed about the iniquities of this bill.

David Babbs, who founded 38 degrees four years ago to campaign on issues that effect people, also attended and spoke.  He is eloquent and passionate, a very young and still idealistic chap – the kind of person our politicians should be – an absolutely lovely person, not affiliated with any political party.  I can’t speak highly enough of him.

I urged 38 degrees to go to TPV before the vote in Lords; unfortunately, they did not; after the vote I again asked them to go, especially David, and I sent all the info to Mark Windows.  Becky Jarvis from the team did speak to Mark on air, but she was not nearly as impressive and I felt influential as David would have been.

Unfortunately, David is not yet “awake” to the real truths about what is going on.  After the meeting in Stroud, my son-in-law spoke with David briefly, mentioning some of the legal issues, but he was clearly completely taken aback and couldn’t take it in.  He is still throughly immersed in the ideals of democracy.

Mark Windows then had an MP, John Hemmings, on air, and he completely trashed any objections Becky had made, and just went on flogging the old horse that Neil Carmichail had done, that the bill is all about transparency, and isn’t that a good thing, and how much does it cost to print leaflets?  Unfortunately, he managed to convince Mark that it is all an over-reaction.

I have tried to get 38 degrees to go back and refute this, but nothing has happened yet.

So I guess my point is that 38 degrees is an excellently run grass roots organisation, well-supported by the public.  Heaven knows what will happen to it now, which is just the point, of course.

We desperately need to wake up 38 degrees, however, to the real truths.  So far I don’t think I have been successful.  They are so immersed in their issues that they can’t see the forest for the trees, perhaps?


With many thanks,

Jane

TAP – It almost smacks of managed opposition.

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9 Responses to “The Stopping Of Free Speech”

  1. sovereigntea says:

    Controlled opposition ! With a globalist agenda of economic sabotage of the UK.

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    Success! Following our campaign, David Cameron has agreed to accept the recommendations of the Committee on Climate Change.

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  2. sovereigntea says:

    Definitly black hats “Joseph Rowntree Charitable “

    A number of charitable trusts and foundations have supported the launch of 38 Degrees, including the Isvara Foundation , The Funding Network, the Andrew Wainwright Reform Trust, the Esmée Fairbairn Foundation, the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Foundation, and UnLtd for supporting our work.

    38 Degrees was partly founded in honour of ****Anita Roddick****, a lifelong champion of the power of ordinary people to make a difference.

  3. Anonymous says:

    I honestly did not know about this group,thankyou henry my church group will look into it
    many thanks

  4. sovereigntea says:

    ****Anita Roddick****

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    Promotes George Soros Rockerfeller CIA funded Greenpeace

    And sustainable EU links. These are the building blocks of the communist octopus.
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  5. sovereigntea says:

    All that is missing is the 5 year plan … Oh wait a minute Cameron red Tory traitor and criminal has one already.

    Is it just me or is there something faintly Maoist about David Cameron’s brave new coalition government?

    We’ve now got a five year infrastructure plan, a five year deficit plan, and five year fixed terms, not to mention a quasi-religious extolling of the virtues of personal sacrifice in order to benefit the greater good.

    The Tories even produced a communist-style manifesto at the last election, while the Lib Dems have got their little Orange Book – perhaps they should change the shade and have done with it?

    Joking aside, there is currently something of a vogue amongst western governments for the adoption of the kind of medium-term five to 10 year plans made famous, or should that be infamous, by China’s Communist Party.

    http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/james-blog/1898146/all-hail-chairman-camerons-plan

  6. Anonymous says:

    “why obey such a law? It’s made to stop us from talking to each other. It can’t stop the flow of information that’s running. The Common Law is the only law that should be respected and obeyed. The rest is corporation law designed for institutions to crush people into the ground. The law needs redefining so that people come first, and corporations second. The law can only be applied with the consent of the ruled. Withdraw consent”.

    -SPOT ON-

  7. sovereigntea says:

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  8. Anonymous says:

    If an organisation, such as yours, decided that it could not make headway for it’s cause without “lobbying” during periods prohibited by HMG there could be a solution. If the organisation was to be, even nominally, a single issue political party, could stand for one or two seats against targeted sitting MPs/Cabinet Ministers. This would circumvent more than the gagging law and would provide much more publicity then would have been had under normal circumstances. Political parties have charity status.

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